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  • Anonymous

    The name of Christ and Jehovah changes in different tongues in Africa God has different names in English God’s name is Jehovah Jesus is also an English name.

    • Peter K. (admin)

      Thanks Anonymous. The Greek word for god is “theos” which is used in the New Testament to refer to God and Jesus.

      In the old Testament the Hebrew “Elohim” can also applies to God but is a much broader word that can apply to any “mighty one.”

  • doug

    Did you know that the Hebrew scriptures do not use the words god, lord and elohim they say it is pagan. they use the words heavenly Father

    d

    • Peter K. (admin)

      Thanks Doug. Can you share where you got this information?

      ELOHIM

      The Hebrew word for gods in Psa 82:6 is elohiym, a variation of ELOHIM. So Jesus is using “theos” as a translation of “elohiym.” We know that angels, Abraham, the judges, etc. were called ELOHIM. So we can conclude that “theos” as a translation of Psa 82:6 does not apply to false gods.

      This Hebrew word ELOHIM is found in Ex 7:1 where Jehovah told Moses, “I have made you a god (elohim) to Pharaoh.” Here the word “god” does not mean false god.

      The assertion by Trinitarians that, because Jesus and the Father are both called elohim, they are, therefore, the same Being, is a very poor argument, displaying only the weakness of the position they are trying to defend. Notice the usage of this word in Scripture:

      ANGELS CALLED ELOHIM
      You have: made him a little lower than the angels (elohim), and have crowned him with glory and honor.—Ps 8:5

      ABRAHAM CALLED ELOHIM
      And the children of Heth answered Abraham, saying to him, Hear us, my lord: you are a mighty (elohim) prince among us.—Ge 23:5,6

      MOSES CALLED ELOHIM
      I have made you a god (elohim) to Pharaoh.—Ex 7:1

      JUDGES CALLED ELOHIM
      His master shall bring him to the judges ( elohim ).—Ex 21:6

      GODS (JESUS & ANGESLS) CALLED ELOHIM
      Deut. 10:17, “For Jehovah your God, he is God of gods [elohim), and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the awesome, who regardeth not persons, nor taketh bribes.”
      Note: This cannot mean that Jehovah (Yahweh) is the God of false gods.

      • Anonymous

        But did Yahshua say there is many lords and many gods ? and why was his name changed to Jesus when he was a Jew. where does the name Jesus come from is it not from Rome ? Constantine

      • doug

        Almost every person in every nation in this world today
        worships God. Others look within themselves to find salvation, but they will not find salvation within themselves. Some
        even search the Holy Scriptures in order to find the way to
        eternal life. But, if there are three different men teaching
        three different doctrines, it is simple to see that all three
        could be wrong, but all three could not be right.
        Every one of the people in the Christian denominations
        claim to follow the Holy Scriptures. They worship God, they
        say, because that is in the Bible. However, the same Holy
        Scriptures they claim to follow are the same Holy Scriptures
        that say the whole world is deceived.
        Revelation 12:9— And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the
        Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world. She was cast out
        into the earth, and her angels were cast out with her. (are we not all deceived ?)

        • Peter K. (admin)

          Thanks Doug – Are you saying nobody has the truth and it is not even worth trying to find it? Or do you feel you have found truth and if so, can you share it with us?

          My personal foundation of belief is accepting the Bible as the word of God. John 8:31-32 (ESV) “31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

          I am not insecure in my beliefs so in the spirit of Christian love and fellowship I am willing to hear from anyone who agrees or disagrees with me. I don’t think God expects us to be accurate on every point of scripture we have ever studied because we are not perfect. However, I believe his Holy Spirit guides those who have been baptized into the body of Christ as its body members.

          1 John 2:27 says, “As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.”

          Matt 13 (NKJV) “10 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”

          11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the [a]mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

          ‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
          And seeing you will see and not perceive;
          15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
          Their ears are hard of hearing,
          And their eyes they have closed,
          Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
          Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
          So that I [b]should heal them.’

          16 But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear; 17for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.”

      • doug

        one last question the word baal does it not mean lord.?

        • Peter K. (admin)

          Doug – Depending on which Bible Lexicon you look it up in Baal could mean, deity, heathen god or Lord.

          Interestingly the Greek word “theos” is used of God and Jesus, but also of Satan as the “god of this world” 2 Cor 4:4.

          Great care must be taken when attempting to harmonize scriptures because if we come to the Bible with a preconceived point of view, we might tend to interpret the Bible according to that rather then to let it speak for itself. We can find the meaning through context and topical study. In topical study, we find the harmony on a topic throughout the Bible. Many can come to a false conclusion by focusing on one or two verses that they fit within their preconceived thinking. When we have resolved all seemingly conflicting scripture and find harmony in all passages, we can have more confidence in our conclusions. However, in the end, we cannot come to the truth without God’s guidance.

          John 14:6 (ESV) “Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

  • Hank

    To Peter.

    As you learn more you will get that answer. Let me know what Joshua 10:12,13, Ecclesiastes 1:5 and Habbukuk 3:11 mean to you.
    Do you believe God stopped the million mile universe moving everything. Including the sun and moon to quit moving and to stkp the earth spinning? Or did he simply stop the sun and moon? Hank

    • Peter K. (admin)

      Thanks Hank. Good questions. Your interpretation are more literal and that is fine. It is up to each of us to try to come to our own best honest conclusion. I will share my thoughts. Take it for what it is worth.

      I might start by noting that any of us flying in an airplane at a high enough altitude can see the curvature of the earth.

      Going to the Bible, there is no verse that I am aware of that says that the earth is flat. I don’t think that we should feel compelled to explain every miracle in the Bible to conform to our understandings of science and physics. Here is a sincere question for my understanding. How would you explain from a flat earth perspective? Did God Simply stop the sun from moving around a flat earth? I just want to make sure I understand you.

      Isaiah 11:12 (ESV) says “He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”

      Are we to take “four corners of the earth” literally? The Jewish people were dispersed among Gentile nations for nearly 2,000 years after the Roman Army destroyed the nation and burned Jerusalem. Would a flat earth have four corners and if so, where are the four corners?

      There are various proposed answers for the sun standing still, including a slowing of the earth’s rotation. https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_625.cfm

      Perhaps the standing still of the sun and moon is no more to be understood literally than that fighting of the stars down out of their courses, or the melting down of the mountains (Isa 34:3 : Amos 9:13; Micah 1:3), the rending of the heavens (Psa 18:10), or the skipping of Lebanon (Psa 29:6), the clapping of hands by the trees in the field (Isa 55:12), the leaping of the mountains and hills (Psa 114:46), the bowing of the heavens (Psa 18:10). It is figurative language which we have here to interpret.

      In the verses below (you cited verse 11), we have another example of the sun and moon standing still. Here also God rides on horses with chariots and arrows. God marched through the land and trampled nations. This is clearly figurative language. Perhaps the sun and moon did not literally stand still again any more than we can take the other parts of these verses literally.

      Habakkuk 3:8-12 (NKJV) “8 O LORD, were You displeased with the rivers, Was Your anger against the rivers, Was Your wrath against the sea, That You rode on Your horses, Your chariots of salvation? 9 Your bow was made quite ready; Oaths were sworn over Your arrows. Selah You divided the earth with rivers. 10 The mountains saw You and trembled; The overflowing of the water passed by. The deep uttered its voice, And lifted its hands on high. 11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation; At the light of Your arrows they went, At the shining of Your glittering spear. 12 You marched through the land in indignation; You trampled the nations in anger.”

      If we accept flat earth, than we have to believe in a mass deception of the scientific world and that satellites taking pictures of the round earth and other planets are fake. If true, I would like to see some evidence of a coverup, like hearing from some insiders on podcasts who are witnesses to the deception. In any case, we can see with our own eyes that the sun and moon are round or spherical and even the planets by telescope. So it doesn’t seem far fetched to me that the earth would be a sphere as well.

      If however the earth actually were proven to be flat, it would not shake my faith in the Bible.

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts Hank. If my comments are not satisfying to you, that is fine. You have the Christian liberty to come to your own honest conclusions. You are welcome to respond if you desire.

  • DOUG EVANS

    RR,

    I see what you mean about that. I am scared that if I would get into the JW I would get disfelloshipped early on. I was wanting to get into their beliefs but I am afraid of that. I dont believe my wife would join if I did either.

    Doug

    • Doug, the Watchtower would expect complete obedience when you join. in fact before baptism, you will sit down with the elders while they ask you over 100 questions about doctrine and practices, that you will have to answer with chapter and verse.

      Any doubts you may have, will have to stay between you and the Lord, because to confine in another Witness will be detrimental. Witnesses are trained to report their own siblings if they should express any doubts in Watchtower teachings.

  • DOUG EVANS

    RR,

    Thank you for providing insight on that.

    Doug

  • DOUG EVANS

    RR,

    I sent you my email address.

    Doug

  • Dave

    Thank you Criss.Do you ever hold your conventions .

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      Yes we have three here a year in our area but there is at least one convention a weekend all year. We have the general convention once a year for 6 days. We have one 2 hours away which is my favorite. We have one here where I live. This year we had two amazing elders coming who are my favorite but we had to cancel it due to this virus. Many are hosting online conventions. But I love the conventions. I love the memorial. If you ever get a chance to download the bible resources app there are a few discourses that I would recommend to be listened to. You can type “Great Crowd” or “Great Company” and one i listened to that was good as it talks about where they serve God and the other was “The Third Babylon”. It draws the parallels between what happened in the WT after the death of russell and parallels it with what happened to the church after the apostles died.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Because of the cowincedence, would like to share this with you. Was listening to Bible Students convention 2018 on Armageddon. They mentioned Joel 2:1-11 and said the saints are not the army. They are right, but they didnt know who it was. A few points that might help you agree it was about Babylon coming to destroy Jerusalem. Read chapter 1:6, invaded my land. 2;3 in front of them a fire consumes and behind them a flame burns. Land ahead of them is like Eden’s garden, but they leave behind them a barren wasteland; nothing escapes them .

    Did you catch what they are headed to destroy? 2 Chronicle’s 3:1 Solomon began to build the Lord’s temple in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah where the Lord had to appeared to his father David,on the place David had prepared at the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.

    Genesis 2:8 The Lord God planted a garden in Eden.
    Let me know what you think.

    Dave

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave, one thing you have to know about the Bible students. We each have different views. The speaker may not have know who it was but doesn’t mean many of the brethren don’t know who it is. It was only recently that the WT changed it from JW to something else in their upcoming WT. It will change again as future developments come out. We can only guess. If you want a greater amount of discourses we have out own app called “Bible Resources”. You’ll see it and it has a cross and crown on it. Also, if you go to Columbus Bible Students we have thousands of discourses on there. On the app its called Audio Sermons. You can listen to many different ones. We also have a very popular christian show called “Christian Questions” which we have the website and the APP. Its all so amazing.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Let’s hold on to the confession of our hope without wavering, because the one who made the promises is reliable. Heb.10:23

  • Dave

    Thank you for your time Criss.

    The difference between you and me is.

    You accept one humans many errors. And I accept many humans errors.

    Moral of it all.

    Both could be wrong
    Or one is right with one wrong.

    So I will share one last bondage point.
    Where ctr had it set up for elders and not elders heard cases about wrong doing.

    Indeed, even if the transgressors refuse to hear ( obey) the decision of the entire Church, no punishment is to be inflicted or even attempted. What then? Merely the Church is to withdraw from him its fellowship and any and all signs or manifestations of brotherhood. Thenceforth the offender is to be treated as a heathen man and a publican.

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