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  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    One more thought.Jesus referring to end times. Matthew 24:37-39 As it was in the time of Noah, so it will be in the coming of the Human One. In those days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark. They didn’t know what was happening until the flood came and swept them all away. The coming of the Human One will be like that.

    I m sure your going to agree with Jesus.

    • Chris Johns

      Dave,
      Yes there will be people who die in Armageddon. However your missing a huge chunk of the bible. All are going to be resurrected in John 5:28,29. V If you were confident in what you believe you wouldn’t need to make it seem like my views are erroneous by saying I’m basically disagreeing with Jesus when really I’m disagreeing with your interpretation. If we are abraham seed and we will bless all the nations of the earth how is that possible if all those who aren’t abrahams seed are going to hell?

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Yes the bride, the little flock. Luke 11:32
    But I saw another dave not me left a message, Rev. 19 Jesus and the saints execute judgement, and he showed Rev. 11:18 Desroyting small and great bringing havoc or destruction to the earth. She how religious people are getting now with this virus? Consider Matthew 7:21-23 and 7:13 and verse 14

    • Chris Johns

      Dave,
      There have been so many viruses and when this passes then what? Was assume something else? The world will have their trial in the millennium. Ask yourself. Who is the bride talking to in Rev 22:17. If all true Christians are the bride and the rest go to hell then who is the bride talking to?

      Rev 22:17
      “The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.”

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Your question, how will these priests rule over these people if their destroyed or are in hell?
    Rev. 20:4-6 Note where it shows that they will be kings and priests. They are in the first resurrection. Note the ones they are priests to were living during the 1000 years being helped by the priests . Then at the end of 1000 those others came to life, meaning they are welcomed into Rev. 21:3-5 and will no longer need a priesthood. That’s why it says the saints ruled with Christ for a 1000 years.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    Acts 17:30 reads, God overlooks these things in times past, but now directs everyone everywhere to change their hearts and lives.

    • Chris Johns

      Dave. Pf course. However we see that God is calling a bride. He isnt calling the world. That’s why we are called a little flock. We are the seed of abraham. The seed of abraham will bless the entire world. “Through your seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.” Has the world been blessed yet? What exactly are we reigning over for 1000 years of all else are in hell? Hmmmm

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s
    Only church is on trial.

    Matthew 24:24 False Christ’s and false prophets will appear, and they will offer great signs and wonders in order to deceive, if possible, even those whom God has chosen. The second word is all small caps in this bible, when I typed it, it went big.
    To say those who aren’t in the church aren’t on trial is ridiculous. The words if possible, capable of happening, if capable of happening.
    Why do signs and wonders to mislead 8 billion people to have the chance to get a small handful of 10,000 bible students to lose there life eternally, then spare the 8 billion during the 1000 years???

    • Chris Johns

      Dave. The world is not on trial. The scriptures confirm this. God was only dealing with Israel. Now hes opened it up to the gentiles to complete the bride. And the whole goal of calling them is to become a nation of priests and kings. Who are the ruling over if everyone else goes to hell? What’s the function of a priest? To be a go between God and man. How can they do that if all are going to hell or annihilated before the millennium? The bible says “Judgement begins with the house of God.” The judgment day isnt until the millennium.

  • Dave

    To Marc on trinity.
    1. Matthew 19:6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. That’s a couple that gets married. The rest of verse reads, Therefore, humans must not pull apart what God has put together. There one, but two separate people. And first Corinthians 11: show the head of the woman is the man.
    Likewise it shows the head of Christ is God. 11:3 While your in that chapter read 15:27,28, do you see Jesus is in subjection to the Father.

  • dave

    revelation chapter 19 is not just unfaithful chosen ones. rev. 11 18 its not the chosen ones bringing havoc on the earth.

  • Charles

    Tony Morris dictator GB chief. Turn church to arrogant unfriendly fundamentalist place. Good worldly peoples gonna died and only active members survive. Hostile wicked politics.

  • Gasa

    Dear Christopher
    It is my understanding that this site is called friends for Jehovah’s witnesses you say we are like the Catholic Church in that we blindly follow an organisation. Some may claim this when they have left us but the ‘beroea were more noble minded ..they carefully examined the scriptures” Act 17:11 nwt that is the remit of every Christian and every Christian witness of Jehovah. A church or organisation helps with fellowship and bible study but my faith is based on my personal relationship with God through his Son. Abel and Job served God loyally without a church so must we if need be.
    Concerning your claim that all Christians go to heaven none have the earthly hope. What about Martha’s comment about the resserection in the last day, the evildoer who died beside Jesus with Jesus promise of paradise and Mt 5:5 where Jesus mentioned the meek. I agree with you most of Jesus comments for Christians was introducing the heavenly hope for the ‘elect’ who make up the bride class part of the kingdom.
    Earthly Israel today is not acknowledged in any plans for us today but brother Russell believed and wrote about earthy Israel returning to there own land and Gog attacking Israel we know today. I personally am inclined to agree with Pastor Russell. You are right expressing personal views publically can get us into trouble in our organisation and yes this is not a good sign.
    Any more details or answers welcome

    • Christopher Johns

      Gaza,
      Thanks for your reply. Sorry I didn’t get back to you. We were at the All Florida Convention of Bible Students. It was amazing!!! So much deep discussion on the churches experience as typified in the Books of Exodus,Deuteronomy, Leviticus.
      As for your comment about Martha. Remember Lazarus died BEFORE the begetting of the Holy Spirit. Therefore there was a resurrection to the earth for him and the reason she believed he would be resurrected to the earth. The Jews had this belief and that’s why she believed it. The apostles didn’t even know that Jesus was to die much less receive a spiritual resurrection. Those who lived before Jesus and before the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost will have an earthly resurrection. It wasn’t until 1935 that the JWs started teaching that the Great Company class is an earthly class. This was mainly done because the number of people on the group exceeded the number of 144,000. So what do we do with them? That’s when two hopes came about. The Matthew 5:5 if you read it says “Inherit the earth” Does not the church become JOINT HEIRS with Christ? Do they not inherit the earth to rule over? Also if you look at the surrounding verses they say “Will be called sons of God” “they will see God” “Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.” These all refer to the anointed and therefore so does verse 5:5.

      There is so much about the restoration of the nation of Israel. In the Kingdom Hall this week it was assigned to read Romans 11. Notice the “their” when they are talking about the natural Jews it says “their”. Then it says “and this is the covenant that I will make with THEM”. Not “US”. Also Amos 9:14,15 says they would be brought back together and planted in their land and NEVER BE UPROOTED AGAIN. Well this did not have a fulfillment yet for they were uprooted again in 70-73 AD.

      Notice how this is Israel in the flesh. Not spiritual “A partial dulling of senses has come upon Israel until the full number of people of the nations has come in, 26 and in this manner all Israel will be saved. Just as it is written: “The deliverer will come out of Zion and turn away ungodly practices from Jacob. 27 And this is my covenant with them, when I take their sins away.” Romans 11:25-27

      As for following an organization. I don’t believe they blindly do it. You may have some that would believe that. And what I share with you is in by no means an attack or criticism. There’s nothing wrong with being organized. Russell even said that no major undertaking could happen without organization. However it’s when we believe that this organization is necessary for our salvation that we don’t agree with. I’ve heard it’s stated that we have to come into the “art“ in order to be saved from the “flood ”. Or when we claim that only truth can come from it and on they can interpret the Bible. Here’s a few example. And like I said this is by no means an attack.

      Catholics say only the Pope can interpret the Bible. (I’m sure they’ve loosed this a bit).
      JWs say “Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587).

      Catholics used to teach everyone will go to hell outside their church. JWs teach the following:
      “Only Jehovah’s Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the “great crowd,” as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil.” Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19”

      “Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah’s universal organization.” Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 “Are You Prepared for Survival?”

      The majority of people living today will probably be alive when Armageddon breaks out, and there are no resurrection hopes for those that are destroyed then.” Kingdom Ministry 1968 Mar p.4

      “To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it.” Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12

      “Come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation” Watchtower 1981 Nov 15 p.212

      Bible Student believe that the world of mankind is not on trial for life right now. We believe that that is what the millennium is for. To say that people are going to die in Armageddon because they don’t believe now places the world of mankind on trial for life. We believe that only the church is on trial for life now. If you look at the atonement day sacrifices you’ll see that there was a blessing for the Levites and then a blessing for the people in general. This we believe represent the church is blessed first and then the Israelites who represent the world of mankind.

      I’d like to hear your thoughts. 🙂

  • Gasa

    My apologies I had not read your full introduction and the purpose of your site. There are so many sites that attack us. It’s refreshing to find you,
    Christian love.

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