Welcome all Anointed Jehovah’s Witnesses and those who would like to talk with you!
Anointed Talk is a place for the Anointed of Jehovah’s Witnesses to talk to each other and for others of us to get a chance to talk to you. And why not? We have been told that no one else is listening to you. Is this true? The The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11 says, “anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand…” (See complete quote below). Yet to what avail is this special insight? Does the Governing Body care what the Anointed have to say? Do they ask for the opinion and spiritual insight of the anointed? Sadly, we are getting reports from Anointed JWs, indicating they are being disrespected, ridiculed and made fun of. They tell us that they are even being discouraged from partaking of the memorial. Is it true that the elders and others just don’t believe that those who claim they are anointed really are? That they do not respect insights of those claiming to be anointed? Are the anointed who express a different point of view labeled an Apostate? Is what we are hearing true? Is this the norm or just unusual examples coming our way?
Why doesn’t the Governing Body consult the anointed? Why aren’t they interested in their opinion? Why is the Watchtower writing department adding more writers that are not anointed? Are the Anointed a perceived threat to the power structure that must be diminished? After all, shouldn’t JWs being looking to the anointed for spiritual guidance as opposed to Elders, Circuit Overseers and District Overseers? Is the JW power structure trying to minimize and belittle their influence? Is this really all just about power and who is in control?
We are not trying to incite the Anointed to rise up and rebel and fight the system. The Lord’s anointed are a humble and meek people. Yet we understand that if anyone expresses a difference of opinion, whether anointed or not, they are in danger of being labeled an apostate. So, how then can the anointed be in any position to provide spiritual insights. If it is only to tell everyone else to follow the organization, then couldn’t any JW member do that? So then of what value are the anointed in the JW Organization? It only seems to make sense that elders and leaders in the JW organization would desire, in humility, to look to the anointed for spiritual guidance.
What do you think? What is really going on. Let us know what you think. This is a place to talk. We want to hear from everyone, but especially from the anointed ones, whether presently JWs or whether you have been driven out of the organization. Please enlighten us and tell us the truth of what is happening. Here you can talk to each other and help each other out.
Full quote: “Daniel 12:4 states: “As for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.” Much of what Daniel wrote was made secret and sealed up to human understanding for centuries. But what about today?
6 In this time of the end, many faithful Christians have ‘roved about’ in the pages of God’s Word, the Bible. The result? With Jehovah’s blessing on their efforts, true knowledge has become abundant. For instance, anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand that Jesus Christ became heavenly King in the year 1914. In keeping with the apostle’s words recorded at 2 Peter 1:19-21, such anointed ones and their loyal companions are ‘paying attention to the prophetic word’ and are absolutely certain that this is the time of the end.” – “The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11.
This is a fact I know for sure;
Only God the Father, and Jesus know who the 144,000 are. Many who believe Jesus is the Son of God have felt at one time, or another, “They were of that class.” I believe the 144,000 do not talk about the wrong that has been done them by other humans…or proclaim to be of the Heavenly class. Their hearts are overwhelmed with serving God. They spend no time talking about the wrong done them. If any can show me just one scripture where the servants of God talk about how they have been hurt by humans, I will apologize for this comment.
Hi Domenic
Just wanted to say that I do not believe the 144,000 to be a literal number, revelation is a book given in signs and symbols and the number should be viewed as symbolic, as a sign of something. Mainly that spiritual Israel replaces the ancient nation of Israel as God’s people.
I don’t like gossip and would avoid talking about any slight or wrong done to me if the listener knew the person I was talking about, just as scripture says do not give away the fault of another.
Sometimes there is just a need to talk without having a complaining or vindictive motive.
There were those in 1st century who complained about Paul’s speaking ability, we know this wrong done to Paul because he spoke of it.
Hank,
the Jews not only killed Jesus, they also went after those who followed Jesus after his death. Those who follow Russell are as hardheaded. If you read back on many of these threads, If I used Scrolls not in the Bible, my comments would be buried with many comments leading away from my comment. I have been told on this forum, “We stick to only what is in the Bible.” I don’t see the writings of Russell in the Bible. What the Jews did when Jesus was alive, is being done by the BS. That was Satan behind those Jews, so who is behind the BS…God?
Domenic, we do not bury comments, they go further down as new comments appear. If no one chooses to comment to you it might indicate they don’t have a comment. Br. Peter did address you on the other books not *part of the canon.
Also discussing uncomfortable subjects like the question of race takes courage. It is a not complaining, it is a statement of facts. You may skip over reading those comments if they make you uncomfortable. Jacqueline
Not to rude, but you are wrong. I am not an apologist. But I find it amazing that you seem to not like me sharing things from When C.T. Russell was alive.
I think you should opening hearted be clad, other wise some Bible Students may wonder are you afraid of C.T. Russell’s teachings.
Hank
Hank, your quotations seen to me to be taunting not sincere. Plus you make a lot of applications to what BS think and yet you are not one but a full fledged JW that speaks double. I find it difficult to reply to your double stand. You were acting like a witness at first then you switched to Bible Student. Normally we don’t have to wonder if a regular poster is a witness or BS, that’s all I am saying Hank.
BTW, Hank we as Bible Students don’t have the fear of retribution as a witness would from stating your thoughts. There is no centralized governing body of judges handing down convictions in so called judicial committees. Judicial is a legal term and the society really does not have any judicial powers in any country, just a side note to your saying I might be afraid.
I think it is well understood to stand for the one and only you know who.
And the early Christians had a lot of name changes to. The bride, the seed, the anointed and others. Any of those names links them to the follows of Christ and worshippers of Jehovah.
You mention you don’t follow any saying unless it comes from the Bible. I believe the Bible Students that follow the Divine Plan take Pastor Russell’s suggested 12 rules very seriously.
I guess if I heard Peter and Chuck say they don’t and they don’t know any Bible Students who do, I would believe they were thinking like you.
Take care
Hank
Hank,
Greetings! Just for the record. I do not refer to Br. Russell as pastor and I will have to look for the “twelve rules” you speak of. I follow the “rules” of my Lord Jesus Christ as given to his followers. I’ll admit I fall short frequently. I notice you use a lot of phrases and terminology that as a BS I am not familiar with. I am still uneasy about your view of “the organization” as from God. Most of us try to live an organized life or some semblance thereof but that does not make it from God. That would be typical throughout history. Christians can organize themselves in many ways and for many reasons but that does not make it Gods organization. I got out of Nominal Church systems for many reasons, one being when there was “someone” you had to answer to even if he thought he was doing Gods work. Not buying that.
Just a few thoughts…
In Christ,
Br. Chuck
Hank, I just like a person to stand on what they believe. You come across as insincere in your references to this ” you know who.” If you are a diehard witness be that I can deal with that, but to violate your standards of your organization codes while encouraging others to adhere does not bode well. Chuck isn’t aware that for you to persist you must either be an apologist or one told to deal with this site. You see Chuck does not fully know how the witnesses work. Or you are a witness that does not really believe in the watchtower but afraid to say so. Or your eyes are opening to the truth about Jesus. If you are an apologist from the society you jam up sites and sway it hither and thither. Most sites can spot you. So which is it? Am I wrong on each assumption? Take a stand so we know how to answer you as a witness or a Bible Student or somewhere in between?
Never fear we knew it was you.
Hank
Thank you Jacqueline;
Now there you taught me something easy to understand. I did not know the WT goes to each race in their appearance. Very interesting.
Hank
Hi Hank, i wonder how long you have been a JW. i was baptised in ’92 and during my time i saw a oouple of issues where the family on fron cover of WT was black for African countries, Asian for Asian countries and white for other countries.
Jacqueline, the above was not the point i was making. if in the African issue, myriads of angels, the resurrected Christ, 24 elders, and a good amount of anointed on earth portrayed as black then i will stand corrected – of course.
Back to Hank, if you mean by seeking great things i am seeking too much to be seen as part of an active slave class, well if this is what God’s word says than what man in his right mind could stand against it.
i reasoned on John 10:16 that it applies to anointed ones, such insight i will credit to the operation of Holy Spirit. My anointing to HH i will without reservation say it is under direction of holy spirit are these not great things. i did not bestow upon myself to be part of active slave class but have had such privilege bestowed upon me.
What right does the GB or anyone else have to stand against me on these things if bestowed upon me by authority of holy spirit, i would suggest that rather they would be the seeker of great things to think that they have authority to oppose such.
Thanks all the same for your well meant consideration.
i will continue to look on othe sites, in quest for that other great thing to have freedom of speech speak openly on reasonings from God’s word with other aninted ones. Where the spirit of Jehoavah is there is freedom, anointed ones in JW’s dont have this freedom – they are seen only as apostate, rebellious, etc. it cant be right!
Anointed1, I was replying to others in general. However you bring up a good point. I will find the foreign African mags and see how the angels are depicted tonight when I go home for the night.
Also, you , me and others may speak about these sensitive issues of JW that is why have Xjw on the site . We, understand these issues. some PATTERSON and wallkill black brothers said they would leave bethel service if they had to go to New York city headquarters bethel. The Society has racial and problems the one token GB member indicates it. Maybe when they see this they will work on that. Black US Cong. Discuss this openly all the time even CO.
I had a discussion with one admin last night, that this sensitive issue needed to be addressed. This is a site for Xjw or those estranged and wishing to talk. We do not try to make a problem for current witnesses.
And we can’t let apologist run the site but invite them to converse on JW.org if they want to say only sweet things about the org. If there wasn’t a problem this site would not exist. It remains a safe haven for those hurt by the org and it’s governing body.
Good to hear from you Jacqueline. Yes James writes we all stumble. James 3:2
The pastor is Brother C.T. Russell at the Society who gave the suggested rules. The reason you find the wording a little different is because they talked a little different back then.
As I stated the Pastor’s rule number VII. Which I am trying to become better at. I would think all Bible Students would also be doing that.
You are far smarter than me. I have no clue what methodology even means. I am a nobody, very simple minded. If you want to asses me and give me feed back, you will have to use easier words for me to understand.
Have a great day.
Okay fair enough. Why do you an active Jehovah witness that believes the gb and the organization is the truth use the term pastor says or quote from the SITS?
In 1901 the Pastor was getting ready to sent four brothers to the land of down and under. But what was amazing is that a minor had gotten his hands on a copy of the Divine Plan in 1896 and a group of twelve was studying it together in the capital.
When I read that, I have no inclination as to skin color and if it was not brought up, I still wouldn’t. And chances are if they all were caucasan and spoke English I may not have understood them because of their accent. What I see, is human beings having an experience similar to Acts with the 12.
As far as Jesus, he may have had an olive complexion. Which would make him half and half. I think if he wanted us to know and it pertained to gaining everlasting life, he would have told us. And he new all his followers would stumble about all the time. James 3:2 And he drilled forgiveness. I have seen many colors in the literature, and I know for a fact that their will be many colors in the bride in heaven. What is required of the bride is most important. To start saying then instead of he, because the he represents both men and women, is something that may or may not be needed.
If all Bible Students and worshippers of Jehovah God applied Brother Russell’s suggested rule number IX we would be happier.
IX Shun a contentious and faultfinding disposition as contrary to the spirit or disposition of Christ-contrary to love.
Appreciate your post and feelings, but in heaven their will be no bickering as to color of spirit. You will all be spirits, plain and simple.
Should we not all, bury the hatchet? What do you think?
Hank
Hank as I said I don’t follow any saying except what comes from the bible. Many who are not black love to skirt the issue, you have to discuss something sometimes. Within the Jehovah witness organization it is a paramount problem even now so don’t pretend this is a none conversation, not needed. If I have got emails to the contrary applaud the fact that we dealt with it here.
You keep mixing us up with the JW. Bible Students have never been JW. Rutherford wanted to start an organization so by 1927-29 most of the BS had left him or were DF. To distinquish his new organization from the different BS classes he named his Jehovah witnesses and assumed the role of the Jews of today. Before that time he believed that the Jews were still in prophecy.
You use the term pastor isn’t that unusual for a JW? Even I don’t use the term.
In reply to your other post, most witnesses are unaware that other nations don’t allow nor accept magazines that depict any but what their country looks like. I have a lot of the mags in pigin from the US even. The secrecy always turned me off. I like full disclosure. There are a lot of bones buried when you have a hierarchy and sub control groups, sort of like the Ca-tho-lic system of cathecism learning and certain things only higher ups are privy to. I had CO live in my house plus am from a family of elders and visited bethel a lot as I traveled for work and was in that area for weeks 4 times a year.
Hank,
In the 1800’s it was believed the black were of the seed of Cain. This was taken from Ham, (son of Noah) being of the dark skin. The two seed teaching was accepted as truth in the 1800’s, as it was in Jesus day. Some how the two seed teaching has been put aside as a theory, and even as a false teaching?
The Bible when compared to the Scrolls, proves the Bible was changed to the fairy tail of eating a fruit. Since Cain can be proven to be a child from Satan’s seed, the many scriptures together prove we have two different types of people on this earth today…those from Satan, and those from Adam. Jesus did not come to save those of Satan’s seed…only those of Adams.
Dominic,
Your statement just now sounds extremely racist in my opinion. My father asked me about the black race coming from Cain as he had heard growing up in a very racist period of our history. It was an interesting conversation to say the least. I can only hope he does not now believe such hate speech and understands we are all Gods children. As for the “scrolls” you keep mentioning. A thousand years from now if one was to look at all the current (2014) literature circulating on religion, one could come to many conclusions about current belief. But I believe the Holy Scriptures are the inspired word of God and he has protected them for a reason. He had his own reason for using who he did to compile them. The “scrolls” are no more than the fairy tale you talk about. People with different beliefs and superstitions. Some acuracy may be in them but if there was even a bit of untruth, our Lord made sure they were not included. Again, this is my opinion but I certainly stand by it.
In Christ,
Br. Chuck
The Catholic religion can be proven to be false. The Catholic church took the Bible from the Scrolls…if they did it word for word, it should match…the truth is, it does not match. In Jesus time, he quoted from the Scrolls…there was no Bible as we have today. It is a true statement, much of the bible matches the Scrolls…it is also a true statement, many of the scriptures from the Scrolls which are in the bible, have been change, or left out. God has many servants on this earth, in the past, and present…why would he use a false religion to compile his word? God gave us his truth in the Scrolls, why would he have to again give us the same words with changes…are you saying God made a mistake when he had the Scrolls written? All religions are false. Why would any one trust what the present as Gods truth? Read the Scrolls, and you will see they are different from some of the Bible. If my statement sounds extremely racist, I have just stated what history has said, and what the Bible has said. I grew up in a racist America. No I am not racist…and yes, this country is still racist. That being said, just because America has been, and still is a racist country, does not white wash what history, and the bible says.
Domenic I normally ignore your 2 seeds theory most of the time but not now. You say: Cain is child of satan and black people are from Cain. You SAY : Adam is father of everyone else and redeemed by Our Lord Christ.
Now do you see why we don’t comment on what you say about your two seeds.
Divine providence allowed us to discuss this so your thoughts would be clear. I for one will continue to ignore you. And racist comments will not be approved , so please refrain if this is how you personally feel. Thank you
Domenic – I have been removing your recent comments. You keep pushing your two seed agenda even when no one wants to discuss it. You name call and come across as a bully. I will give you one opportunity to explain. You seem to be saying that black people are the seed of Satan, Cain and Ham and that Jesus did not die for that seed – black people. That is a terribly a racist and false teaching. Is this what you believe??? Please be very clear in what your view is of black people. If there is any misunderstanding, this is your opportunity to explain and vindicate yourself.
I did not say black people were of Satan’s seed. I did say, “In the 1800’s religions were saying that, and where they came to that was from Ham being of the dark skin. The Bible does not say black people are of Satan’s seed, nor do I.
I did say Ham had sex with his mother, (Noah’s wife.) Ham uncovered his fathers nakedness. Here is what uncovered nakedness means…from the Bible;
Lev 18:8 The nakedness of thy father’s wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father’s nakedness.
Lev 20:11 And the man that lieth with his father’s wife hath uncovered his father’s nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Jacqueline called me a racist…which I am not.
As to who Jesus died for; He died for all that would believe in him. He did not die for the sons of the angels, nor those who reject him.
This forum teaches ALL will be given life. That is not what the Bible teaches. If all were to be given life, God would not have to destroy all living things on earth, and Gods people would not have to spend seven years burying the bones. Telling people, “All will be saved,” is giving people a free pass to do anything they want…this I will never believe.
And yes, I do believe there are two seeds on this earth as the Bible teaches.
The above is my stand, and it will not change.
Noah put a curse on Ham, and all of his seed. A curse means, “They will have a hard time. It does not mean they will not have life.” If you read the history of Ham, he went to what is now Africa. Ham was of the dark skin, and those of Africa are of the dark skin…and history shows, they have had a very hard time.
If I say what history says, does not mean I wrote the history, not did I record it. My saying what history says does not make me a racist. To call someone a racist, is saying they are not a Christian, nor do they follow Gods laws.
I will tell you something. “I serve God, not for life, but because it is what my heart wants to do.” If God were to say to me, “Domenic, I am not going to give you life,” I would still serve him with my whole heart…there is nothing else I want to do. Am I upset I was called a racist? You damn right I am.
Domenic – Sounds like racist thoughts to me.
Genesis 9:25 ASV
And he said, Cursed be Canaan; A servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
Ham’s son Canaan was cursed. Canaan was the father of the Cannanites whom the Hebrews conquered, destroyed and enslaved. This is the curse.
Your comments are too inflamatory and without a big change of heart, you are no longer going to be welcome here. God is longsuffering, but my patience is wearing thin.
Domenic – We cannot agree on a lot if you do not agree with us that the Bible alone, not other scrolls, is the inspired Word of God. So having a discussion seems pointless if we disagree on the authority for our beliefs. So why are you here? You won’t convince us that the Bible alone is not the inspired Word of God. The purpose of this website is to encourage people and provide an opportunity for open discussion for those who trust the Bible. So again, why are you here? You have a different agenda.
I will ask two questions of you?
1) Do you agree that black people are equal to white people and other races in God’s sight? All having an equal opportunity to be blessed and rewarded by Jehovah?
2) If you were to point out the seed of Ham to me today, who would that be? Does God view them differently than others? If so, how?
To answer these two questions;
1) Do you agree that black people are equal to white people and other races in God’s sight? All having an equal opportunity to be blessed and rewarded by Jehovah? “YES.”
2) If you were to point out the seed of Ham to me today, who would that be? Does God view them differently than others? If so, how? “I would assume it is those who come from Hams seed.”
As to my believing the Bible alone…Do you understand the Bible was taken from the Scrolls? If you believe in the Bible, you have to believe in the Scrolls they were taken from? And if some scriptures do not match the Scrolls, don’t you think something has been changed?
You are doing to me, what JW Elders do. Jacqueline jumped to a conclusion I was a racist, and now you are trying to put me on the defense, and protecting her.
I have YHWH, mu Lord Jesus, and all the angels in Heaven who knows what I have done, and have not done. I let them be my witnesses…I need not defend myself against you, or any man. It is you who should examine what is being done this day.
I have made a copy of all the post on this thread before you removed them. It is my position that those leaving the JW;s need protection. I have a question for you Peter; Do these need protection from the BS? What is your agenda?
Enoch in in the Bible four times. It says, “Enoch walked with God.” The Scrolls of Enoch were read by those who followed Jesus. If Enoch walked with God, and his Scrolls were read in Jesus time on earth, why are those writings not a part of the Bible? His name is in the Bible four times. When the Catholic church put the Bible together, why did they leave Enoch’s writings out? These Scrolls tell what the world was like before the great flood. Enoch was the great grand father of Noah.
Would God not want us to read the Scrolls of Enoch? Many say, “If God wanted them in the Bible, they would be there.” We still have the Scrolls. God made sure his people still had these Scrolls. Many religions have their own bible…a Bible is just a book of the Scrolls. Not all the Scrolls are part of the Bible. The Scrolls are from God. Because a false religion put some of the Scrolls into book form, does not make the rest of the Scrolls false.
You follow Russell who’s name is not in the Bible, but reject Enoch, a man who walked with God who‘s name in in the Bible four times.
I will repeat what I have said before; The Bible was taken from the Scrolls…the Scrolls are our apex of learning. The Bible should match the Scrolls. God gave us the Scrolls. The False religion known as the Catholic Church put what they wanted into book form, left out much, and if you read the catholic Bible, it contains many books not found anywhere.
Enoch
Gen: 5;22 Enoch walked with God
Lu 3:37
Heb 11:5
Jude 14
Domenic,
You have stated that you don’t put faith in the Bible and yet you quote the Bible trying to prove your point. You seem to want it both ways. Please explain.
In Christ,
Br. Chuck
Domenic – I cautiously find the Book of Enoch very interesting. However, after the first thirteen chapters or so, it is corrupted with additions from later writers with crazy ideas. We do not have a copy of the original text of the Books of Enoch. All we have is an Ethiopian translation to translate to English. That would be the equivalent of translating the Bible into English from the Latin Vulgate. If the Book of Enoch were inspired and needed by the Church, don’t you think God would have preserved the original text for us?
We have not quoted Russell to prove anything to you. Calling us followers of Russell is a diversion. In essence, you are saying, don’t trust those Bible Students… they do not think for themselves. This is demeaning to us and provides no support for your own point of view.
Domenic – I don’t understand your question. Why would anyone need protection from the Bible Students??? The worst we can do to anyone is state our opinion.
You asked what my agenda is? On this website it is to encourage JWs and those who have been JWs. by giving them a place where they can fellowship and share thoughts on Jehovah’s inspired word with freedom, Christian liberty and without fear. However, when someone has had a full opportunity to express themselves and continues to push the same views continually, then we consider cutting that person off for a while.
Domenic – To clarify, many of us jumped to the conclusion that your are a racist. At the very best, you are dense and insensitive to how hurtful your words are to black people. Based on your answers and hesitantly giving you the benefit of the doubt, what the problem may be is that even if you are not racially biased yourself, your view of Ham’s black African descendents being cursed is an ignorant, offensive and racially charged interpretation. Many black brothers and sisters will find this doctrinal view to be very hurtful and offensive, particularly in the light of the fact that evil people used this wrong interpretation to justify horrible treatment of black slaves in early American history. So for you, this topic if off limits. I don’t want to hear you bring it up again or you will be expelled from this website permanently! No wiggle room here! This topic to finished!
Regarding the Bible, you argue that it was taken from scrolls and the scrolls were changed, so we cannot trust the Bible, however, apparently we can trust your scrolls. You keep harping on this topic and no one it biting. I responded from the start with this link which you never responded to: https://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/2012/01/07/the-historic-journey-of-jehovahs-written-word/
“Three primary factors were taken into consideration when qualifying a manuscript as canon: first, the text had to have been written or authorized by an apostle; second, its teaching had to be consistent with the teachings of Christ and the apostles; and third, it had to have been acknowledged and used by Christians since the earliest days of the church.” Your scrolls don’t meet this criteria. There’s nothing here really to discuss. We have given you the liberty to keep stating the same opinion again over and over again, however you have not provided the source or proof or supposed authority that supports your view. We simply have a difference of opinion. You have expressed yourself. However, this brings us back to the question, why are you here? If you do not accept the Bible as God’s inspired Word there is nothing to talk about. For us, the Bible is everything. It is our authority. I know you want to help JWs, however from our point of view, you are simply promoting a false idea trying to put God’s word in doubt. This idea can only harm the JW community, not help them. Even though it is rare for me to ever kick anyone off the website, I am not sure if I will continue to approve your comments. I will pray about it. The jury is still in.
Domenic – Please clearly explain. Who do you believe is the seed of Satan / the seed of Cain today?
To Jacqueline;
Hope you have a nice time at your convention. Don’t worry about me being offended or unforgiving.
“For we all stumble many times.” James 3:2 And if a person has a problem with either of those two things. He can work on a suggested rule by the Pastor.
Rule number VII “Be pure: maintain a conscience void of offense toward God and men. Begin with the heart-the thoughts. Harbor no thoughts that in any sense of the word would be evil.”
Great advice from the Pastor. And we all know he backs it with teaching’s from God’s son Jesus Christ.
Hank
Hank, I don’t really know what you mean when you say the pastor. I would rather you quote the word of God or just state what you want to say. It is becoming difficult forme to believe you are a witness, I mean that sincerely. That is unusual methodology and speech for a witness so you can’t be honest if you are really a witness. You are talking to a psychotherapist by profession and I read words carefully. It is true I can make a mistake but not often for a person’s speech will often betray or confirm who and what they are. Jacqueline
To Domenic;
Thank you for that post. The few verses before that shows Ezekiel being told to take a message to the Israelites and if he was sent to people speaking an unintelligible language or an unknown tongue whose words you cannot understand, they would listen. But as you mentioned Ezekiel’s people would be hardheaded and hardhearted.
Did you notice how God reassured Ezekiel not to be afraid? God said, I will make your face as hard as theirs, and your forehead exactly as hard as their foreheads.
So the question is. If the Israelites were bad for this, did God make Ezekiel bad by making him like that?