Welcome all Anointed Jehovah’s Witnesses and those who would like to talk with you!
Anointed Talk is a place for the Anointed of Jehovah’s Witnesses to talk to each other and for others of us to get a chance to talk to you. And why not? We have been told that no one else is listening to you. Is this true? The The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11 says, “anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand…” (See complete quote below). Yet to what avail is this special insight? Does the Governing Body care what the Anointed have to say? Do they ask for the opinion and spiritual insight of the anointed? Sadly, we are getting reports from Anointed JWs, indicating they are being disrespected, ridiculed and made fun of. They tell us that they are even being discouraged from partaking of the memorial. Is it true that the elders and others just don’t believe that those who claim they are anointed really are? That they do not respect insights of those claiming to be anointed? Are the anointed who express a different point of view labeled an Apostate? Is what we are hearing true? Is this the norm or just unusual examples coming our way?
Why doesn’t the Governing Body consult the anointed? Why aren’t they interested in their opinion? Why is the Watchtower writing department adding more writers that are not anointed? Are the Anointed a perceived threat to the power structure that must be diminished? After all, shouldn’t JWs being looking to the anointed for spiritual guidance as opposed to Elders, Circuit Overseers and District Overseers? Is the JW power structure trying to minimize and belittle their influence? Is this really all just about power and who is in control?
We are not trying to incite the Anointed to rise up and rebel and fight the system. The Lord’s anointed are a humble and meek people. Yet we understand that if anyone expresses a difference of opinion, whether anointed or not, they are in danger of being labeled an apostate. So, how then can the anointed be in any position to provide spiritual insights. If it is only to tell everyone else to follow the organization, then couldn’t any JW member do that? So then of what value are the anointed in the JW Organization? It only seems to make sense that elders and leaders in the JW organization would desire, in humility, to look to the anointed for spiritual guidance.
What do you think? What is really going on. Let us know what you think. This is a place to talk. We want to hear from everyone, but especially from the anointed ones, whether presently JWs or whether you have been driven out of the organization. Please enlighten us and tell us the truth of what is happening. Here you can talk to each other and help each other out.
Full quote: “Daniel 12:4 states: “As for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.” Much of what Daniel wrote was made secret and sealed up to human understanding for centuries. But what about today?
6 In this time of the end, many faithful Christians have ‘roved about’ in the pages of God’s Word, the Bible. The result? With Jehovah’s blessing on their efforts, true knowledge has become abundant. For instance, anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand that Jesus Christ became heavenly King in the year 1914. In keeping with the apostle’s words recorded at 2 Peter 1:19-21, such anointed ones and their loyal companions are ‘paying attention to the prophetic word’ and are absolutely certain that this is the time of the end.” – “The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11.
Jacqueline my sister; you are my mother, you are my sister, you will be my brother also.
My beautiful Jacqueline; Thanks for the 21 but 64 is real, in Prague in 50’s or 60’s you do not see black people walking on the street, just at the movies.
Truth is not in question even His word is not in question here, otherwise we have no conversation as spirit anointed people. Many of you spiritually grow up in the organization; you are using scriptures and its understanding according what you heard from others and what your heart accepted (C T Russell. It is easier to follow the crowd, rather to relay on someone you do not see, you run the race alone only you have to work out if you are far in front or far behind. Christ found me in my very young age no earthly spiritual organization involved than and no earthly organization involved now, try to say scriptures not been involved only spoken word. My spiritual training take two stages one by Christ Jesus and the other by my Father Jehovah and this one is continuing till I dead as righteous one same way as my baptism will finish. Training by Christ Jesus take many decades, you are put in many situations you do not want to be in and many places you do not want to go. Reason is very simple absolute confidence and complete faith in the power which sustain you from many situations you been through. Difficult part was that you cannot hide, cannot run and you do not know who the power is and reason for it. Second part training by our God and the Father Jehovah; Introduction to His Son Christ Jesus, anointing through His Son Jesus, baptism trough His Son Jesus, understanding where your spiritual mother is and where your congregation is. Learn that He has many people in different places, past Adam test and keep integrity to God Jehovah in all situations. The first stage been easier; you know that your time is not yet come and the power will take you out from there. Second is harder you have full understanding of it and you dread to fail your God and the Father Jehovah.
Thanks for your testimony.
Hallo again Jacqueline.
My dear brothers; do you looking for some kind of justification as you been make small in in the kingdom hall,is it your ego hearts,are you need assurance that you are little flock?
We know that all earth is lying in the hands of the wicked one, we also knew that Satan is not stupid to allow truth spread organized manner. Satan know very well that are Father Jehovah through Christ Jesus will not step in yet why, brothers we have a war with this mongrel till final sealing. Think of this; here we have J.W, B.S. Catholics, Church of E, Baptist and others and all of them are saying we have the truth.
Heavens are clean, Jerusalem above is are mother; if you have not established relationship with Jehovah and seeking answers in the organization, then you are great crowed, Christ is not manifested to them yet.
27 And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him.
Jirka hello, haven’t heard from you in a while. You were 19 last we talked, now you should be at least 21 and the knowledge is still increasing in you.
I hope you and your family are getting along well. I don’t think we heard your testimony, could you tell us about your journey for the new readers here.
This question of truth was answered. God is Truth; HIS word is truth and Jesus is the Word, his father speaks it and it is done by and thru Jesus.
John 18:36 Jesus mentions the reason for his being born into the world to testify to Truth.
…36Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.” 37Therefore Pilate said to Him, “So You are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.”
38Pilate said to Him, “What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews and said to them, “I find no guilt in Him.…
So nice being able to talk with you and persons walking in Christ.
Hi all, hope everyone is well this Sunday.
May I ask those who are Anointed of their experience of this & when it happened & what was the defining point of which you knew that you were sure that it was an Anointment from God.
Many thanks,
Warm & loving regards,
Daz
Hi everyone, not sure if my original post below has got missed/overlooked but again may I ask those who are Anointed of their experience of this & when it happened & what was the defining point of which you knew that you were sure that it was an Anointment from God.
Many thanks,
Warm & loving regards,
Daz
Daz – I never responded because I thought you were probably interested in the experiences of JWs or former JWs who are anointed. Bible Students use different terminology. We say “spirit begettal.” This refers to the Biblical “New Creation” (Galatians 6:15; 2 Corinthians 5:17) who are baptized into Christ’s body (Romans 6:3-4) and receive the enlightening Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13; John 14:26; 16:13). I think there are only about 10,000 officially listed as anointed in the JW Yearbook. However, we know from experience that a number of JWs keep silent on their heavenly hope for the bride of Christ as they fear the doubts, repercussions and criticism they would receive if they partook of the memorial emblems. On the other hand, there are Ex-JWs we have communicated with who sincerely feel they are anointed, yet with some sort of special or exclusive connection with Jehovah, making them a special spokesperson sent by Jehovah with a special missions to teach others. If we put ten of these friends in the same room for a few hours, I believe they would argue and disagree with each other on many things. There are probably very few JW related friends who consider themselves anointed. However, we hope they will respond, even if in anonymity, to share their anointed experiences, so that we can all learn from and encourage each other. Perhaps even those not anointed can comment on what they have thought about it and what they consider there present relationship with Jehovah to be.
In my personal experiences I can recall a far back as third grade, being on the school playground and looking at the other kids playing, wishing that I could somehow convey to them that there is NO hell fire torment and the hope of the future earthly kingdom and God’s promise to Abraham that all the families of the earth would be blessed. We had many brethren in our home over the years with much fellowship in the home and at meetings, conventions and youth study camps. At age 12, I desired to consecrate my life to the Lord, however realizing the seriousness of the commitment and that there was no turning back or changing my mind, I hesitated. I was afraid that I might stumble and not follow through. So I did something different and unusual. I made a decision not to consecrated (decision to commit my life to Jehovah and to be baptized), however I decided to try living my life as if I were consecrated and see if I could follow through with such a commitment. Two years later at age 14, I realized (had no doubt) that I was fully consecrated to do the Lord’s will. I formally declared by consecration and was shortly thereafter baptized at the San Diego Convention. Since then, I have never looked back with any regret or had any doubts. Although there are ups and downs in life, I can honestly say that I generally wake up every morning with the joy in my heart of knowing that Jehovah will bless all the families of the earth and that just maybe, if I am faithful, that perhaps even I might have the opportunity to be part of the bride of Christ. So much more to say and so little time to say it. Hope this is a good start.
Thankyou kindly Peter for sharing your views & your experiences, much appreciated, yes a very good start! 🙂
Daz I saw your comment the other day and thought maybe if someone has had this experience as you ask it they would answer so thanks for repeating. I would suggest also to keep in mind some experiences with God and his Holy Spirit may be personal to an individual nd might have more facets, sides, lengths, depths in their coming to Christ and the sometimes life experience can’t be worded. This is my thought on it. Take Care
Oh, my goodness, what can I add here to the 326 comments?
Very little indeed. But here goes:
No single organization, church, group or one of thousands of Christian associations can claim to be the exlusive dwelling place for any one legitemately anointed (having become a Christian or anointed one) destined to be part of the Bride of Christ, Abraham’s Seed and the Israel of God chosen for heavenly governance on the basis of their faith, not works.
Jehovah’s Witnesses may not harbour any! Vanity of Vanities?
That little flock of anointed messianic sheep remaining from out of the original flock of Jacob are scattered throughout Christianty.
Jehovah knows who, while they may or may not. From Bishop or Priest in one of the main denominations to a relatively insignificant old widow the likes of the one daily attending the temple waiting for Israel’ Messiah – here from the ‘OLD’ (1984) NWT:
(Luke 2:36-38) 36 Now there was Anna a prophetess, Phan′u‧el’s
daughter, of Ash′er’s tribe (this woman was well along in years,
and had lived with a husband for seven years from her virginity,
37 and she was a widow now eighty-four years old), who was never
missing from the temple, rendering sacred service night and day
with fastings and supplications. 38 And in that very hour she came
near and began returning thanks to God and speaking about [the
child] to all those waiting for Jerusalem’s deliverance.. . .
These 7 encouring words from Revelation is their legacy to see them to the end of their earthy sojourn, wherever they may presently be:
(Revelation 2:7) 7 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations: To him that conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.’
(Revelation 2:11) 11 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations: He that conquers will by no means be harmed by the second death.’. . .
(Revelation 2:17) 17 “‘Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations: To him that conquers I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white pebble, and upon the pebble a new name written which no one knows except the one receiving it.’
(Revelation 2:26-29) 26 And to him that conquers and observes my deeds down to the end I will give authority over the nations, 27 and he shall shepherd the people with an iron rod so that they will be broken to pieces like clay vessels, the same as I have received from my Father, 28 and I will give him the morning star. 29 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’
(Revelation 3:5-6) 5 He that conquers will thus be arrayed in white outer garments; and I will by no means blot out his name from the book of life, but I will make acknowledgment of his name before my Father and before his angels. 6 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’
(Revelation 3:12-13) 12 “‘The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God, and that new name of mine. 13 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’
(Revelation 3:21-22) 21 To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’”
Yes, let us just listen to what the Spirit says to the congregations,
while humanity continues to ruin what Jehovah graciously gave them and
just happily wait for the Kingdom to provide the platform for peace.
Dieter
Hello, Dieter G, we thank you for your thoughts. I agree the choice will be the LORDS, and some of us might be surprised. But to be able to explore the word of God and hear what others say has been a powerful blessing from me. Like Paul, I will run the race and receive the promises of the blessings that God and Jesus decide is best for me. Oh what a blessed day we look for with joy. Take Care
I appreciate this website and look forward to studying it further although I am familiar with many of the subjects it’s always good to get other’s opinions and insight, I thank you all for your wonderful commons.
Hi Kevin and welcome. If you have questions or just additional information we welcome it.
How do you know 100% if you are annointed, how do you know for sure that it’s not just your mind convincing you of it or your overwhelming love for Jehovah & Jesus? Those of you who are annointed please do not take offence by me asking you this, I just want to understand.
Warm & loving regards,
Daz
Daz, good question I think. My eyes were opening to the truths found in the Bible and my heart was burning to come into a relationship with Jehovah. I learned that the race to run for the heavenly calling was not closed but open as my heart was moved to think of helping Jesus bring the many to righteousness. I was understanding his Ransom in full.
I used to think about often only of living on the earth in paradise and seeing my family and ancestors. I looked forward to it.
But my hope began to change no longer was I able to envision myself on paradise earth for eternity.
I understood what Jesus and the Bride class and the temple workers (represented by the levites) were to do to help mankind. I don’t doubt after a while that the Spirit enjoined with mine. I finally after much study and prayer accepted the work I was called to do and my thoughts and hope was changed to a heavenly one. It is a race for the prize. Be faithful until death Jesus said and I will give you the CROWN OF LIFE.
If a person thinks it is a delightful wishful feeling then, I would say perhaps he has not been called or set out on that race. I don’t have such questions at all as to whether or not I have been called to run for the Crown. For some years I was aware and my heart burned to partake of the symbol of this unity, the bread and the wine.
The wiccums (witches) have a ceremony once a year where they lay out the bread and the wine and DON”t PARTAKE, to show contempt for Jesus sacrifice said one woman of this group. And I was doing the same thing ignoring the symbols of his sacrifice.
You don’t have to ask Daz if you are running and have been called by Jehovah, the Spirit hangs with you until you are sure. I had the experience and once you accept this call you have not doubt and in my case I can’t think about living on Paradise earth but there is no concious effort. I know I am a Female, I am quite sure and don’t think about it. So neither do I wonder about my call to Christ. It isn’t something that I feel a need to discuss with anyone as it is a personal relationship. There isn’t doubt in the mind of one who has been called no more than a doubt about their gender. Hope this helps.
Perhaps others will give their testimony also.
Dear Jacqueline, I thought you were an anointed sister for over 60 years. My mistake. I think I was talking to you at suppertime at the general convention. I told you I liked your testimony. I thought this website was for anointed brothers that left the witnesses as the anointed of Jehovah. Anyway god bless and stay with the bible students.
Joseph hello, this website has many subjects and Anointed Talk is just one of the many topics. This is a site for any witnesses or those that feel they are or must leave but want a place to fellowship.
It is not limited. It is also an information site to show the differences in the beliefs on the same subject and where the changes occurred after the Jehovah Witness religion started.
And I was a witness for 61 years and the belief system would not have allowed me to interact with the Spirit to realize the heavenly call is what Jesus offered.
Others may still answer when they see this. Take Care.
Dear brothers and sisters, when did you realize that you were of the anointed. Was it before your water baptism or was it at the moment you dedicated your life to doing god’s will to walk in the footsteps of Jesus christ. Did you realize within yourself that you had a robe of righteousness imputed to you and that the blood of Jesus was applied to your conscience. If you can call me on my cell phone I would love to talk to you.201_344_0782. Or email me at jwp123456@gmail.com.
Hi Joseph I just called you got your voicemail. I began to understand the bible as I read it years before I accepted or understood the interaction of the Spirit with mine. I had assurance from the Spirit that the call was open for me to run for the upward call and I accepted after realizing what was happening. I was baptized into Christ death in 2012 about 1 year later.
I was baptized as a Jehovah witness when I was twelve years old. I wanted to pioneer during the summer but knew nothing of the Christian call to run for the prize of heaven.
At 12 I was a very sincere follower of Christ and had pitfalls incidental to youth and raising family etc. I realized something was not quite right however (harmony of Jewish scriptures, GB etc) perhaps 20 years earlier but had nowhere else to go until the internet around 2004. So that is my little journey, it had many pitfalls and betrayals. Jacqueline
I like this site ,, their still love Jehovah her , than my kh elder. Long story
Hello Anonymous, We would like to hear your story. There are ones on here that would love to talk it out with you. It is an opportunity for Daz, Erika, Victor or any others to talk about it.
BTW, no story is too long, this is what we do listen and try to help you steady yourself.
Also no I don’t attend the KH since 2009 I am a Bible Student now. I was immersed in 2012 as I realized there was an organization forming when I was baptized as a child in 1960. Jesus was 30, I was 12 now I understand what it means to be baptized in Christ. Jacqueline
Hi Jacqueline,
After reading the Article on the Anointed, and your invitation to talk, and why I am no longer associated with the JW’Org.Below are some of the thoughts given to me through Holy Spirit, this is a taster of my conviction to you, and the other former JW’s mentioned in your comment.
Somehow I do not think the F/D/Slave of the JW’s would welcome me, or make adjustment in their course, to what I have to say.
Immediately on reading the article Esau’s birthright came to mind, and how it is connected to what I read in….watchtower 14….15th Feb 2014..Rejoice over the marriage of the lamb…..
came to mind on how those grabbing hold of the figurative (skirt of the Jew) Zech 8:23, who the F/D/S claim to be, Rather the…7 F/D/Slave are misleading those who go along with their “Inspired Expressions” even to the point where those that were called, “give up” their Privileged invitation like the bowl of stew (Esau), by submitting their crowns to the 7, being grouped with the domestic’s, thus beating them, fulfilling scripture.
The ones submitting themselves, who are put under compulsion, in other words forced, will receive a mark on the right hand or upon the forehead, marks to show the kings have submitted their rulership(head)and the domestic’s on the(hand) Rev 13:16…..Becoming the virgin companions.
Also 2Thes 2 says,the chosen would only be gathered, once the Apostasy/Rebellion,revealing of the ‘Man of Lawlessness” takes place, I believe this to be true and when Babylon(Israel) goes down( the powerful delusion) Jehovah allows.2Thes 2:11.Will be a sign for those watching.
Israel being “literal” yes (the country in the middle East) would be the symbolic earthquake spoken of in Revelation.
Earthquake, being a sign to the world, that Jehovah’s day is here.
Below are 3 parts taken from study articles of the Watchtower, to give emphasis on what I am saying, it would however be beneficial to read the study articles in full, to fully appreciate the facts that I am making. Along with Watchtower 14….15th Feb 2014
15th May 2014 Are you moving ahead with Jehovahs Organisation?
2 Regarding his invisible presence and the conclusion of the system of things, Jesus said: “There will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.” (Matt. 24:3, 21) This unparalleled tribulation will start when Jehovah brings destruction on “Babylon the Great,” the world empire of false religion, by using the political powers. (Rev. 17:3-5, 16) What will come next?
“Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?”
Watchtower 15th July 2013
16 When does Jesus arrive? The answer is found in the context. Remember that when the preceding verses speak of Jesus as “coming,” the word refers to the time when he comes to pronounce and execute judgment at the end of this system.* (Matt. 24:30, 42, 44) Hence, Jesus’ “arriving,” or “coming,” mentioned in the illustration of the faithful slave takes place during the great tribulation.
19 Does the faithful slave receive a greater reward in heaven than the rest of the anointed? No. A reward promised to a small group in one setting may ultimately be shared by others. For example, consider what Jesus said to his 11 faithful apostles the night before he died. (Read Luke 22:28-30.) Jesus promised that small group of men that a fine reward awaited them for their faithfulness. They would share his throne of kingly authority. But years later, he indicated that all of the 144,000 will sit on thrones and share his rulership. (Rev. 1:1; 3:21) Similarly, as stated at Matthew 24:47, he promised that a small group of men—the anointed brothers who make up the faithful slave will be appointed over all his belongings. In reality, all of the 144,000 will share his vast heavenly authority.—Rev. 20:4, 6.
As you can see only the 7 F/D/Slave receive the 2nd appointment, in reality the first appointment has not been appointed yet( Please test out what I say)
I do have many other thoughts, and if invited again, would love to share them with you.
Please accept my apologies for poor grammar, and conveyance of thought, it is not one of my strengths.
Thank-you for your time
Victor you don’t need am invitation to comment on here at all. I felt really bad that you had been pounced on and we didn’t catch it. I had hoped you were not hurt, also I had considered speaking with Br. Peter to bring you comments forward again and delete former replay made to you. Please forgive us as it is our duty to watch the site carefully so none are disrespecting our sincere and often already hurt posters. I discussed the 2014 article once where they say the appointment comes during great tribulation. I need to read the other before answering you or anyone else may answer.
Yes that would be a positive move on the reply,for others reading it, and being put off.
Thanks again
To all, thank you all for you comments over the past weeks it has been more than beneficial talking with all of you here. it is time for me to move on, i have found other sites wich are more JW based. i pray the blessing of the Almighty be upon you as the last days get shorter.
Christian Love
Anointed1, it was a pleasure talking with you. I am with my JW family babysitting in another city. They go to the KH tonight and I had my meeting last night. We have learned to respect each other. How can we say we love God or Christ and can’t love each other. Some in my family still practice shunning, but most have learned love thru our experiences. I wish you the best . This site is here for those to land until they can steady themselves. Most witnesses wish to live on earth and Jehovah promises to satisfy the desire of all living creatures. Take care and do drop in from time to time to say hello. In the spirit of Christ, Jacqueline