Welcome all Anointed Jehovah’s Witnesses and those who would like to talk with you!
Anointed Talk is a place for the Anointed of Jehovah’s Witnesses to talk to each other and for others of us to get a chance to talk to you. And why not? We have been told that no one else is listening to you. Is this true? The The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11 says, “anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand…” (See complete quote below). Yet to what avail is this special insight? Does the Governing Body care what the Anointed have to say? Do they ask for the opinion and spiritual insight of the anointed? Sadly, we are getting reports from Anointed JWs, indicating they are being disrespected, ridiculed and made fun of. They tell us that they are even being discouraged from partaking of the memorial. Is it true that the elders and others just don’t believe that those who claim they are anointed really are? That they do not respect insights of those claiming to be anointed? Are the anointed who express a different point of view labeled an Apostate? Is what we are hearing true? Is this the norm or just unusual examples coming our way?
Why doesn’t the Governing Body consult the anointed? Why aren’t they interested in their opinion? Why is the Watchtower writing department adding more writers that are not anointed? Are the Anointed a perceived threat to the power structure that must be diminished? After all, shouldn’t JWs being looking to the anointed for spiritual guidance as opposed to Elders, Circuit Overseers and District Overseers? Is the JW power structure trying to minimize and belittle their influence? Is this really all just about power and who is in control?
We are not trying to incite the Anointed to rise up and rebel and fight the system. The Lord’s anointed are a humble and meek people. Yet we understand that if anyone expresses a difference of opinion, whether anointed or not, they are in danger of being labeled an apostate. So, how then can the anointed be in any position to provide spiritual insights. If it is only to tell everyone else to follow the organization, then couldn’t any JW member do that? So then of what value are the anointed in the JW Organization? It only seems to make sense that elders and leaders in the JW organization would desire, in humility, to look to the anointed for spiritual guidance.
What do you think? What is really going on. Let us know what you think. This is a place to talk. We want to hear from everyone, but especially from the anointed ones, whether presently JWs or whether you have been driven out of the organization. Please enlighten us and tell us the truth of what is happening. Here you can talk to each other and help each other out.
Full quote: “Daniel 12:4 states: “As for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.” Much of what Daniel wrote was made secret and sealed up to human understanding for centuries. But what about today?
6 In this time of the end, many faithful Christians have ‘roved about’ in the pages of God’s Word, the Bible. The result? With Jehovah’s blessing on their efforts, true knowledge has become abundant. For instance, anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand that Jesus Christ became heavenly King in the year 1914. In keeping with the apostle’s words recorded at 2 Peter 1:19-21, such anointed ones and their loyal companions are ‘paying attention to the prophetic word’ and are absolutely certain that this is the time of the end.” – “The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11.
I had a good night at home only one thing i forgot to do is pray for all the world., I had the night to remember at home and prayed that i would make it to the marriage by saying i would like to go to heaven or live on earth we 2 of us did and we eat and drink symbolic grape Juice for wine and eat the bread first saying Jesus was pure and thanked The Father and Jesus for what they done for us had a meal before,. My little girl prayed to the night to us was not about who is going to heaven but the love the two servants have for the world who are the Head one union over us,. My hope is i have close to that love one day,. I will never stay away from the Father in heaven that who i love in the masters name i beg and will pray to the Father in Christ or Jesus name,. My girl prayed to her prayers,. Jesus knows about our night,.
Jacqueline;
I have prepared for the memorial and purchased then emblems to celebrate from home. When will there be posted where to watch in and see memorial?
Tomorrow or Friday?
We will post everything once I talk to Br. Peter. I just walked in the door and am on the Wednesday night study. But we will post all the memorial details. Come on and say hi to us. We will be on for the next 1 1/2 hour.
302) 202-1110 then code is 991337
Our Memorial is April 21, 2016 this year.
I have decided i am not going to go against the organization in my preaching work But some times what i teach will go against what they teach,. I teach Christ and i am proud of Gods name the Father Jehovah my heavenly Father and his Christ are with me more now., I am not telling any of you to leave the organization some of you may or may not be better off to stay., Some times you may be better off to stay put,. Some of the best times of my life was at the kingdom hall ,. When my 7 year old girl came home to me when we went to the kingdom hall out of the blue she had her hand up and the speaker called on her she never knew any thing about Jehovah and spoke the answer ,. And one of the worst days of my life was at the kingdom hall.,
Kevin thank you for expressing yourself. What you are saying is what others have witnessed with the organization. So there is nothing wrong with you. It is an organization and they have rules not led by scripture but my complete control and adherence to their standards. Even if the standards are not in the Bible.
It isn’t necessary to be a Jehovah witness to please God. Governing body member Jackson just recently said before the Australia court that Witnesses ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE GOD SPEAKS TO TODAY. He said under oath that there are others that he uses also. And he told the truth.
We are not an organization, you have freedom and liberty in Christ to forge a personal relationship with Jehovah. We discuss as Christians to build each other up and dig into the Bible to get at the best truth of what God is saying.
But there is no controlling over your life or setting out a routine of knocking on doors whether people are home or not to preach and teach. We go where ever there are people not to convert them but to help them understand that Jesus is a RANSOM for ALL of mankind. Every man born from Adam will have an opportunity to know the truth in the Millennium and during the season of testing when satan is released we can then make a decision on whether or not his death and / or our resurrection was to life or to divine judgement.
You are invited to join us now for the next hour. 7pm -8:30pm CST tonight Wednesday. some of us will stay on and speak to you in person. 302)202-1110
But it is good to talk on site as many are following the conversation and your case is like thousands of others.
BTW here is the link for baptism: https://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/category/baptism-and-dedication/
Most of what the organization teaches is in the bible,. How ever there are many things the organization teaches that the bible does not back up the teaching,. One problem with the Organization is the organization is every thing,. WE are the truth or i come in to the truth you hear that all the time saying in a round about way no one comes to God accept thru the organization,. This is not Gods teaching or Christ or any writer of the bible,. Its God and his word and the Jew that is Jesus Christ no one can have salvation with out Christ,. We have even started baptizing in our own name of the spirit driven organization,. It like we are making a golden calf out of our group,. How can any get to heaven calling Jesus a lie when he said he was the way not the 144000 or group he teaches What does love among each other mean or you will know by there fruits,. The people in Christ are with the people not in Christ this is the harvest at the end,. God wants the whole world to be saved., Any one can learn the bible not Just Jehovah’s Witnesses The spirit of God is for any one who ask to help him or her., I repeat God loves the world not just Jews and Jehovah;s witnesses., Gods people do have love among each other,. The 144000 do not willfully lie or mislead or be always thinking of self like saying it is only us that can go to heaven or be saved.,or our group,. No were in the bible does it say only Jehovah;s witness are doing Gods work in preaching,. OR being Chosen as Gods organization by Christ., There are a lot of false religions ,. And false teachers some wereJehovah;s witnesses of the teacher;s
Thanks for sharing!
Great points made. Have you attended a Bible Student meeting? If not, I believe you will find some satisfaction as it is very different than JW meetings. The BS meetings reflects the first century Christian congregation proceedings. All autonomous, yet cooperate with each other. You may ask questions, present findings, and testimony…
Take a look at the great article “Is the Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization Today Structured like the Early Church? What About Congregational Elections?”
here: https://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/2012/03/01/is-the-jehovahs-witnesses-organization-today-structured-like-the-early-church-what-about-congregational-elections/
I have come to miss dearly the spirit of the BS brethren as it is in considerable contrast to most JW brothers. I attend the conventions, but still am not able to attend the ecclesias close by.
Please contact the admins of this site to find a ecclesia near you! https://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/contact/
Or simply ask Jacqueline or Pete. 🙂
In Him, Cazenovi
I am now mid age, At 25 year of age i wanted to be a Jehovahs witness,. I wanted to serve the Jehovahs witnesses until i die., I started wanted to be baptized,. i wanted my 9 year old girl to join the school i was turned down,. My little girl loves Jehovah and the people there but she was not good enough ,. I love Jehovah my God with all my heart and his son,. But i was not Good enough to be baptized,. March 23 i will remember what my Lord done for me and the world,. As i accept Jehovahs spirit teaching to me that i can be one of the bride of Christ., I will not be at the kingdom hall., I fight the desire to sin every day and come up short one day i will win over sin i have problems in some way they have been good to me in some way the have not,. I lost a friend and that is the bad part,. My little girl cried when i told the last man who i toldstudyedwithwhogives me my food its Christ and Jehovah,. She cried when i told her i would not be welcome at kingdom hall she said what about my friend.,
I am so sorry this has happened. It is very upsetting and heartbreaking to hear you have been denied baptism! As Jehovah, your witness, may His spirit continue bearing your spirit. Please read and meditate on 2 Peter chapter 1. In 2 Pe 1:10, the apostles tell the anointed christian congregation to “be all the more diligent to make your calling+ and choosing sure for yourselves”. How can we do that? He continues, “for if you keep on doing these things, you will by no means ever fail.”
The “things” we must “keep doing”, is in the previous verses; notice in what intensity; v5-8
“put forth all earnest effort+ to supply to your faith virtue,+ to your virtue knowledge,+ 6 to your knowledge self-control, to your self-control+ endurance, to your endurance godly devotion,+ 7 to your godly devotion brotherly affection, to your brotherly affection love.+ 8 For if these things exist in you and overflow, they will prevent you from being either inactive or unfruitful*+ regarding the accurate knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ”
Now, this all has comforted me, I pray you too will be comforted.
As the apostle, I “pray that he may grant you through the abundance of his glory to be made mighty in the man you are inside,+ with power through his spirit, 17 and that through your faith you may have the Christ dwell in your hearts with love.+ May you be rooted+ and established on the foundation,+ 18 in order that with all the holy ones you may be thoroughly able to comprehend fully what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of the Christ,+ which surpasses knowledge, so that you may be filled with all the fullness that God gives. 20 Now to the one who can, according to his power that is operating in us,+ do more than superabundantly beyond all the things we ask or conceive,+ 21 to him be the glory by means of the congregation and by means of Christ Jesus to all generations forever and ever. Amen.”
Please read chapter 3 of Ephesians. It brings tears of joy and gratitude of the graces of the Lord, the undeserved loving kindness that he freely gives.
May the Lord be with you!
PS If you would like to speak with me personally my email is cazenovi@gmail.com, otherwise open communication and fellowship here is great too!
In Him, Cazenovi
The thing about being a Jehovah;s witnesses you must support all teaching even if its right or wrong to be baptized,. In the bible being baptized means you have accepted the son as Gods son and God who is Jehovah is your Father in heaven by faith and Christ is your saver ,. And you belong to them as long as you stay with them in your mind and heart., I have heard Jehovah;s organization,. ITSlike you are making a golden calf to me,. When i was 25 i made a big mistake and some for gave me,. Five of the teaching i do not agree with i have not gone public about them until the last 6 months i never needed a ever week book study i a l ready knew most of the bible when i came to the first meeting,. I just was asking what the teacher believes,. The African man was baptized in one day,. in bible or one hour,. Now i do think you should know a little before being baptized,. I have been slowing becoming one of the bride sense 23 i will become one but i will not be with people who disowns my my little child who today loves Jehovah more then any body i know and that includes me.,
That’s exactly what Im getting at. I know you are not with JWs. That doesn’t matter. what matters is that we are diligent in making our calling sure to ourselves independently as the spirit teaches us.
I have a question though. If you were never baptized in the JW why are you being disowned? Or your daughter?
They did not accept me has having any thing to offer,. I was going to keep all there laws even the ones i did not agree with,. I was with them off and on for almost 22 years on this date of remembering never was asked to go out in service,. When i was sick only the people i study with 2 people came to see me., The first to people i study with told me only 1914 people went to heaven and the rest had been counted ever thing did not happen that Jesus talked about in 1914 any one can prove by newspapers old books ,.My girl went in service,. I lost one of the best friends i had when i told him who is giving the food today and who his slave is they both slave for each other that is Jehovah and Christ they give the food today we are just waiters serving,. All people who serve give food,. Jesus was rejected now i have been rejected,. I go else were,.THANK FOR YOUR CARE,. KEVIN
Kevin, thank you for sharing your experience.I too had a disfellowshipped lady sit beside me every week with her 7 year old. No one spoke to him. It was not right so I got his little hand and introduced him to all the little children.
We are not Jehovah witnesses at all. Some of us once were but none of the Bible students have ever been a witness.
You are welcome here to express yourself and when I arrive home to night I will tell you more on how to get in touch with us.
Also the memorial coming up will be broadcast and you can partake if it is your desire.
Give me until later to night to get back with you. I have been traveling all day but only 1 hour away now.
You have come to the right place. We will help you.
Please keep talking directly on the site as many must be feeling like you since tonight is the celebration of the memorial for the witnesses. Pray. You are in the right place. In Christ, Jacqueline
Most of what Jehovah;s witness teach is good teaching and helpful and in bible.,
In being baptized is in the name of The Father and Son And holy Spirit,. To me this means you are saying you belong to God and his Son by the spirit of God,. What does this mean to you.,
Kevin I sort of agree because some translators say holy spirit is added. I would even think in order to receive the holy spirit of God. Remember Jesus said he would ask his Father to send the helper back to them. There is only one name that saves us Jesus and all is exception to Jehovah. That is my take on it.
The holy spirit is Gods spirit meaning its Jehovahs what Does the bible say about adding words to the bible and taking away ,. They have added what they want to make a new meaning., One of the writers talked about baptizing in your own name,.
Yes Jesus is the name,.
Kevin
You should read article in the column on the left under baptism “Baptized in the name of who” it will help you to appreciate what the Bible says and what the apostles said with regards to who’s name to be baptized in and what it means..
I think Jehovahs spirit to men was clear on how to baptize,. I think Gods word is in charge,. Not what we want it to be,. And i will look it up to see is it in the bible writers teaching., Thanks i will look,.
The watch tower baptize in the name of the spirit organization ,. They are making the organization God and you are they own you. Is what i think,. how about you.,
1914 Oct seems to be wrong the date was wrong,. 1914 there was a world war and a great sickness the came on the earth,. June 28 world war 1 ,. When did the sickness start in history,.
No where John does the Bible say it is wrong. And it is between you and the Father and His Son Jesus.
That’s what I’m saying. Where does the Bible specifically mentions ypu have to partake in front of the congregation in a kingdom hall ect
A brother once told me that Jehovah would not accept me as an anointed until I partake “properly” in a public memorial anniversary. But he provided no specific scriptural support. To me the matter is so personal and when I feel ready to expess it ok im gonna do it in public. But I do not think I offend Jesus or Jehovah if I partake privately with respect for my heavenly call
John for the witnesses it is a badge of honor, special treatment and people look to them for special knowledge. I would never tell my family I partake as they wouldn’t understand that they too should run for the calling put out for all Christians. Many receive an anointing from God in the bible for a special service or work. Nazirites don’t cut their hair as a sign of such service and when it is over they cut their hair. But to take on the way of Christ is different. I feel like Paul that I have not made it until death and God says so. I partake to show him I accept the invitation and will run. It is between me and God, Jesus.
I meet with my brothers here in my area when I am here or I find another class if I am near. Once I went in Columbus and the brother said go back now, make it back to your son’s house 40 minutes. He gave me some bread and wine to use with the New York Class.
THERE WAS A MIND NUMBING STORM COMING! I made it home just in time to be stuck in for 2 days with the snow with my family.Their witness memorial was two days later.
I don’t know who told you that you had to be a public display. Your conduct is the only public display ones observe not the taking of the emblems. To me it is the heart. I don’t wear anything that outwardly indicate my personal relationship with God.
Perhaps the one that told you that has a reason or scripture, ask him and see what he says, it might make more sense if he talks it out to you.
John. When I was a JW I would partake at home. However, a scripture came to mind. “If you deny me before men then I will deny you before my father,” So i partook my last two years at a kingdom hall. Partaking is supposed to be a joyous thing not something to indicate that you are of a certain class. But whatever works for you. If there was a salvation issue attached to the partaking then Jesus would have made sure that it was clearly stated. 😀
This scripture about denying Jesus was introduced to me by the brother I previously mentioned. However I do not think it has to do with being in public as you partake but that you can deny the Lord in your course of life in general before men who are not Christians.
Since there is not one scripture saying partaking privately is a sin then why should I force myself to do it? My call is between me and my Father
Totally true but passing up the body of the lord and blood of the lord is equal in my eyes to rejecting the body and blood. In my opinion you’re only passing it up because of the fear of what the other JWs might think. If that is not true then why do you truly pass it?
It’s about me and what I think. To me it’s very personal. Also,the Bible doesn’t mention something about where you must partake.
You partake wherever you feel comfortable to express your faith to God.
Chris I passed it up when I attend for my grandson because their service was horrible. They encouraged everyone not to partake. I had done so 2 days earlier with my brothers of like faith.
If we are honest witnesses taking the memorial emblems generally result is a lot of talk. It is a holy sacred occasion and in my opinion can be done before a holy God. It is true it was instituted with Jesus and the twelve. That is why I try my best to be other body members either in person or by phone, live or if with at least one other use the discours provided.
It is a show in the witnesses and makes you special. One might refrain for that reason only as it cheapens the sincere person. I was married to an anointed JW and just dreaded the crazy looks and some treating him as if he had some special knowledge.
If a person is worshiping God they are not denying Jesus in any way as I see the scripture.
To me the Kingdom hall is just not the right place to earnestly partake if you have come to know Christ. I am sure John had problems getting with the brothers to openly show he was for Christ. Just my little two cents worth on this.
I dunno why but I don’t feel comfortable to do this in front of everyone. I am a very shy person but I have said Im from the anointed to some of my friends, and they seem to understand. I have also told them I partook privately and they said it’s ok but now they force me to do it in public which I cannot do it , at least yet.
I don’t want to feel depressed that Jehovah doesn’t accept my participation. But on the other hand I see no fault in doing it as I see it right.
John,
The Bible does not set up strict rules on the organization of the congregation. The Bible sets the example of anointed body members of sharing together in the memorial.
“Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ?” 1 Corinthians 10:16 NASV
The memorial is NOT for the earthly class or the for public. It is for the body of Christ. The Kingdom Hall memorial service arrangement is NOT primarily set up for the anointed. It is directed at a earthly Great Crowd Class and the general public. Anyone partaking is the odd man out and often in danger of being scrutinized and/or ridiculed. I think this is because the anointed sometimes come across as a challenger or threat to the JW power structure.
It is best to patake with other anointed (spirit begotten) together if you can. I think that if you partake privately, perhaps listening to a memorial service recording, it can be more intimate and meaningful than in a public forum among those not begotten of the Holy Spirit.
As we get close to the time, I hope to publish a link to a live Bible Student broadcast of the memorial which you wold be invited to join.
Thnx for the answer
Even though in my congregation the elders are reasonable I believe the same as you, that is the Memorial is for the anointed Body of Christ.
You can rarely find someone who’s anointed in JW congregations. We had an old sister who was of the anointed (she was concecrated in 1917!)but she is dead now, so I can’t partake with her
So,I think it’s much more meanigful and spiritual to partake by myself so as to join in spirit with my other brethren who partake too
Thank you
Just a question
I felt being of the anointed last year and partook at home. I think I feel more comfortable with that, since I don’t like to draw attention to myself and I consider my relationship with Jesus and Jehovah VERY personal sentiment.
Do you think It is ok to partake at home, while hearing recordings of memorial talks and hymnsafter attending the memorial in the Kingdom Hall?
I find no wrong with this, but does God accept my participation?
Thank you.
Hi John, last year I was taking care of a patient and I had the table set for three, the patient another brother in our area and myself. Only two was there we used the Memorial tape provided. One year before I partook in my private bedroom with the New York brothers via telephone and many from all over the US and outside on the internet. Quite a few of us were alone. I was in the home of a witness and they and others that had come for a dinner left for Memorial at the KH and I retreated to my room. There are lots of brothers alone, so I say it is God, Jesus and me. In fact in Israel they could do it one month I believe later if they were unclean or away. Not answering your question I guess but giving a glimplse into what I have expienced. I would like to mention I even went to the kingdom hall because a grandkid asked me to on their memorial night and I was just so unhappy at the terrible presentation and intimidation of those not to partake. I wouldn’t have touched their emblems. I will not do that ever again. God took me away to a safe place and for me to return is showing disrespect for his mercy. Just a sidebar. Take Care.