Welcome all Anointed Jehovah’s Witnesses and those who would like to talk with you!
Anointed Talk is a place for the Anointed of Jehovah’s Witnesses to talk to each other and for others of us to get a chance to talk to you. And why not? We have been told that no one else is listening to you. Is this true? The The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11 says, “anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand…” (See complete quote below). Yet to what avail is this special insight? Does the Governing Body care what the Anointed have to say? Do they ask for the opinion and spiritual insight of the anointed? Sadly, we are getting reports from Anointed JWs, indicating they are being disrespected, ridiculed and made fun of. They tell us that they are even being discouraged from partaking of the memorial. Is it true that the elders and others just don’t believe that those who claim they are anointed really are? That they do not respect insights of those claiming to be anointed? Are the anointed who express a different point of view labeled an Apostate? Is what we are hearing true? Is this the norm or just unusual examples coming our way?
Why doesn’t the Governing Body consult the anointed? Why aren’t they interested in their opinion? Why is the Watchtower writing department adding more writers that are not anointed? Are the Anointed a perceived threat to the power structure that must be diminished? After all, shouldn’t JWs being looking to the anointed for spiritual guidance as opposed to Elders, Circuit Overseers and District Overseers? Is the JW power structure trying to minimize and belittle their influence? Is this really all just about power and who is in control?
We are not trying to incite the Anointed to rise up and rebel and fight the system. The Lord’s anointed are a humble and meek people. Yet we understand that if anyone expresses a difference of opinion, whether anointed or not, they are in danger of being labeled an apostate. So, how then can the anointed be in any position to provide spiritual insights. If it is only to tell everyone else to follow the organization, then couldn’t any JW member do that? So then of what value are the anointed in the JW Organization? It only seems to make sense that elders and leaders in the JW organization would desire, in humility, to look to the anointed for spiritual guidance.
What do you think? What is really going on. Let us know what you think. This is a place to talk. We want to hear from everyone, but especially from the anointed ones, whether presently JWs or whether you have been driven out of the organization. Please enlighten us and tell us the truth of what is happening. Here you can talk to each other and help each other out.
Full quote: “Daniel 12:4 states: “As for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.” Much of what Daniel wrote was made secret and sealed up to human understanding for centuries. But what about today?
6 In this time of the end, many faithful Christians have ‘roved about’ in the pages of God’s Word, the Bible. The result? With Jehovah’s blessing on their efforts, true knowledge has become abundant. For instance, anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand that Jesus Christ became heavenly King in the year 1914. In keeping with the apostle’s words recorded at 2 Peter 1:19-21, such anointed ones and their loyal companions are ‘paying attention to the prophetic word’ and are absolutely certain that this is the time of the end.” – “The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11.
Cazenovi check your E-mails I have responded.As I write these few paragraphs I am reminded of this christian song: “Friendship with Jesus x2, fellowship divine, oh what a blessed sweet communion Jesus is a Friend of mine”. Wow there is nothing in this world so glorious like having a very very deep relationship with Him. Jimmy Swaggart sweetly puts it in his song when he says: “His Vouce makes a difference, when He speaks He relieves my trouble mind… Its the only Voice I hear that makes the difference. I will follow one day at a time…”.
If my beloved Jw’s can be born anew as John 3:3-8 declares their lives will never, I mean never be the same again. My calling and my ministry is to them. Tell all those who have left the Organization to come back or they will miss what is coming. Jehovah is going to revolutionize the Organisation 360 degrees. Mark my words people!!! Jw’s people will bow down to you.God Himself will lift you up from the dust! I am not allowed to go beyond this! May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all, AMEN!!!
The Bible declares that if you seek Jehovah with all your heart and with all your mind, He shall be found by you! I was hungry for God. I was thirsty for Him. I would fast for many days. At times it was 14days, at times 30 days. Like a deer that panted for water, so my soul panted for Him. There was an indescribable force that was pushing me to want more of God. I so much wanted God nothing but the undiluted God of the Bible. I wanted Him Raw as He appeared to Moses of old. In my prayet I would tell God that I wanted Him, the fullness of His being plus nothing!!!
My soul was crying for Him. Seriously crying for Him.
Believe it or not I can understand your intense feelings. I have actually prayed ALL night at times. I sucked up knowledge when I found the Bible student brothers like I had a straw in water. They were kind and understood that the glass or sponge would eventually get saturated and I would slow down and exhale. I did and was given this Ministry to help others.
That was the key! I needed to tell it out. I am not one to try and disturb a person’s space so I only speak when asked or they have been led by the Spirit as you have to see the organization for what they are a business and a successful one at that. I just wish they would not present God as so evil and harsh, like letting children die because of the blood transfusion issue. If they believed in the saving power of the BLOOD of Christ they would understand it has always saved.
I studied the Bible only, without the Jw publications. I fasted and prayed. In my study of the bible is when I discovered that the Watchtower doctrines are seriously at loggerheads with the Word of God. I wanted to reconcile the 2. The more I prayed and studied the Word the more it was revealed to me that something is not right at the Organisation.
Qiniso, Fasting and praying sometimes you do what you have to do to reach God! I think I ate as I read every book I got off the free table at the Bible student conventions. I had the help of a brother Jeff Mezera who taught me how to get there early and head for the free books. I found Gems from all types of men of faith and got a well rounded view as Bible students express different thoughts on different scriptures. They aren’t Robotic and Mind controlled to think act and feel alike. Yet they are in harmony but they have brains that are opened to God’s Spirit to put it different ways for different people.
I am just so glad you are free and have this powerful relationship with God.
How did you find this site? And also if your time zone is different or the opposite of mine I can wait until you have daylight. I am in America, United States Central Standard Time so you might just be waking up to answer this in the middle of the night. So don’t lose your sleep. LOL
Thanks Jacq for responding. I was a Staunch Jw for more than 20 or so. They found us when I was barely 12yrs old. I studied P.E.with one pioneer, after a yr I was baptized. I continued with them. As I said in passing I am from a family of prophets from my mothers side. I loved Jw’s. My problem was that I had dreams and visions of heaven. I would see the Throne of the Father and the Father Himself. At times the Lord Jesus would visit me. At that tender age. I knew that I didnt belong here. I also knew that there was a special assignment I have to carry out before I returned to where I came from. This bothered me for yrs. I began studying intensely the former books of the Organisation like the harp of God, Jehovah and many other books of the organisation. I wanted to know who and what I was. I wanted to know the meaning of these dreams and visions I had. I couldnt share them with any one except my mother who was searching for her identity as well. I thank God who made me to discover who I was through the book called “The Harp of God”. It was in this book where I saw that the gate is still open to receive grace as the child of God. What was discussed there was what happened to me. There is nothing in this world like finding out who you really are. I thank God. I then began in earnest to study the Word of God plus nothing.
Wow, what a powerful experience! I didn’t have dreams but studying the paradise lost to paradise regained book made me have nighmares at 11 years old when it was released in 1958 New York world convention. The vivid pictures of revelation but particularly of the armageddon scenes. My family including my brothers and sisters believed this book and out of fear I and my brother got baptized at 12 and thirteen to pioneer so we could save some of the people and children. My family have many pioneers and served where the need was great, Gilead and missionary work in Africa. Name it we did it to save ourselves and people.
But I began to recognize this God could not be pleased, no matter what you did he required more and needed a lot of money and buildings. I began to question him in prayer for years because when I wrote letters to the society they sent them back to my congregation and I was threatened by CO and DO with disfellowshipping.
I began to search for him directly through prayer and I was on tour in an RV for weeks on in and the internet came out. I was able to see what other scholars said about Jesus because Jehovah witnesses had rendered him powerless unless we went thru the governing body.
I went thru unspeakable life experiences with in this org but still held on. God had to make me see them for who they were before he could show me who Jesus was.
Thus the experiences of being in the belly of the beast in New York. I had a unique skill they needed at times and I gave it freely but never registered as being on the property but all knew me. After seeing it was a fraud:
My eyes popped open, I could actually read the Bible and see what it was saying and most of it was contrary to what the witnesses taught. Understanding he was not this horrible God that killed children because of the parents was my first relief. He told Israel in Ezekial that each person would only live or die according to their own decision during the age of redemption the thousand years.
I didn’t have dreams like your experience but it was intense this new relationship with God thru his Holy Spirit. I say it was the Holy Spirit because I could feel the opening up of my mind when I heard truths at conventions with the Bible students and when I listened to other Ministers.
Two in particular that talked about the goodness of God rather than his vindictiveness was Joel Osteen and David Jeremiah, among others. Their message took the fear away until I could stand on my own two feet.
Tell me what do you mean about where you came from? The Harp of God, maybe in that book written by Rutherford in 1921, he still believed the heavenly calling was open.
Nathan Knorr was instrumental in having those that was around in the 1920 and 1930-40, stop partaking as they said it ended in 1931. He shut up heaven and took it away from those that held it dear.
Have you ever read the Studies in the Scriptures by CT Russell? It is what helped me to get a more accurate understanding of key doctrines and to see the immense LOVE of GOD and how he solved the dilemma of salvation for all of fallen mankind. Learning that the Ransom and Jesus has power was all I needed.
I accepted Christ and Jehovah’s Spirit invitation about 4 days before the Memorial in 2012. I was positive by Spirit now of what his will was for me and I partook of the emblems for the first time in that year.
So it was a long 60 year journey for me and I am still on it but without dread of God as depicted by the witnesses.
Are you still going to the kingdom hall at times now? Are you associated with any other Christians?
Are your dreams continuing? Or do you finally have peace now? Take Care
Dear Jacqueline, I was reading some of the post on this site and fell over this one from you:
“I accepted Christ and Jehovah’s Spirit invitation about 4 days before the Memorial in 2012. I was positive by Spirit now of what his will was for me and I partook of the emblems for the first time in that year.
So it was a long 60 year journey for me and I am still on it but without dread of God as depicted by the witnesses2.
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Thank you for this powerful testimony. I like that. I also remember first time 25 years ago when this happened for me too.
Ever since then I have this in my heart, being one with Jesus Christ. I love it.
I give you these sisters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuBA5YSsWUI
Wow thanks Jac. You sound like you are no longer with them.Are you? Were you disfellowshipped? You can still go back. God the Father has big plans for JW’s. BIG PLANS!!!Forget what is happening there, but deep down He loves them!My mother was one of the Annointed before she went to GLORY!
Qiniso, no I am not disfellowshipped, I would never give men so much power over me. If I had sins which we all do I would go to God in the name of Jesus to get forgiveness and rest assure that he forgave me.
I just walked away, there was nothing even going on with them and me at the time. My husband had made sure I was no longer a target of the governing body.
I am a part of the women and professionals that revealed and fought for treatment for the thousands of victims of child abuse and to get the abusers revealed so the children could be safe.
The control of the thoughts of all witnesses was getting worse with each decade and any attempt to glorify Jesus was met with the governing body as the means to get to Jehovah. The Ransom had very limited power in their teachings and couldn’t really save mankind only a select few that witnesses deemed worthy.
The congregations were getting out of hand with the sexualizing of children and it was hidden behind people seeing the witnesses in the ministry and thinking “What devout people”. This was a smokescreen. Witnesses would leave a home where the householder had a brain and comment on them being bird food at armageddon and that they were going to get their house.
They accuse God of killing any children not at the age of accountability at armageddon because their parents failed to be and stay a Jehovah witness.
I have probably spent more time at their properties in New York than most regular witnesses. Being there after touring hours and I got to see the real governing body and many living there in Patterson, Wallkill and New York city. They are big shot business men. In fact I traveled with multi millionaires and they had better consciences and ethics among themselves.
I have seen and experienced the evolution of this corporation and realize it is to get charity status and not pay taxes on their huge holdings. They do very little if anything for the community. They condemn all that question their governing body of buddies. They won’t say who the translators are of their Bible so they can be held up to scrutiny for some of the massive changes in their Bible. (I have lived thru about 4 massive changes with many errors, some they corrected.)
So you see I can’t forget what is happening over there, I must keep it in front of me like the Jews with the Holocaust. No one spoke up for them although they knew what was happening.
I knew what was happening with the children!Thousands are leaving the Jehovah witness organization. Thousands are finding Christ as the mediator between God and man.
It is these that have decided on their own to leave and come to this site or the many facebook pages that we help.
We don’t try to make persons satisfied with being in a corporate religion dissatisfied. We believe the Holy Spirit of God calls people out and helps them to see the Bible and Jesus without the undue influence of men.
From what you said your mother appears to have been called out if she recognized that Christians are being called to be with Christ during this age and Judgement and learning during the thousand years and Jehovah’s final day of judgement.
So that is my story in a nutshell.
Are you a witness? And why do you feel God has a lot in store for the witnesses? I would love to hear about it.
Oh BTW, the other conversations will keep going on around us so I will us your name in the first few words so you will know when I am answering you. Take Care
PS: I forgot to address where you said I could still go back. I am no longer under their delusion. The governing body and the belief system of the witnesses is not something I would willingly go into. To me it would be like the proverbial “dog returning to it’s vomit.”
It would show gross disrespect for God and Christ to reject the freedom and liberty they have given me by answering my prayers to break free from the mind control. It meant losing most of my family but it is worth it. If my family have a slave mentality of not speaking to their Mom and sister because of 7 men in New York then I have a n huge problem with how this religion fragments families because they have developed mind control tactics based on fear.
Hello Qiniso. I would love to hear more of what you believe about what Jehovah has in store for the JWs. I am still associated with the JWs but by God’s grace and loving kindness I am enlightened – to the truth; the plain, open and unadulterated Word of God and enlighten – christian liberty being in union with Christ releases me from only thinking one way. It is out of love of people not of an organization, that I remain. My personal ministry lies internal, to progressively enlighten individuals even just one within the organization who will in turn enlighten possibly another one individual.
I would like to speak with you more if at all possible.
My skype is cazenovi or you can email me at cazenovi@gmail.com
In Him,
Cazenovi
I love the Jehovahs Witnesses. I love their zealousness in preaching the goodnews. They are tireless. May Jehovah richly bless their efforts.
Hi Qiniso, thanks for commenting. I was a witness for 62 years and was zealous in the ministry so that now it is natural for me always discuss the Bible with a listening ear.
How did you find the site? That’s always interesting to share. Of you have questions or comments feel free to make them. Take care.
Kevin Davis
E67 Genesis 17:1- “Jehovah appeared to Abraham and said unto him, I am the Almighty God [el].” By Pastor Russell
In the book Jehovah by Judge Rutherford on pages 8 and 28 it reads, “By his name Almighty, meaning that he is all powerful and nothing can successfully resist him. Joyfully serve him whose name alone is Jehovah.
And in the book by JWs Let Your Name Be Sanctified page 92 it says, in the Hebrew Bible the word Almighty (shad da I ) occurs forty-eight times from Genesis 17:1 to Joel 1:15. In the Christian Greek Scriptures the word Almighty (Pantokra’tor) occurs ten times, from 2 Corinthians 6:18 to Revelation 21:22.
So all people who believe only what Pastor Russell taught and all people who only believe what Judge Rutherford taught, and all people who believe what JWs teach have something in common.
Jehovah God is the only true God. So we all should be like the Apostle Paul. He said that he looked for Jehovah to be his examiner. 1 Cor. 4:4
Not even judging himself or having other humans judge him. Jehovah God alone.
So it is up to each of us to examine Jehovah’s word and see how we are doing. Col. 3:5-10; James 4:4; Heb. 10:23-25; Hebrews 13:7,17,24. Proverbs 1:7 John 17:3 along with loving our enemies and forgiving everyone and desires everyone to repent and receive salvation.
Hopes this helps.
Francis
Incorrect. It’s not just to desire to have the truth. We don’t only stick to Russell. But when an organization claims that only they have right to interpret the bible, that you must belong to them for salvation, and that only you will be saved, you have just joined Christendom. Rutherford changed it to just serving Jehovah because he believed that the churches taught too much Jesus. So he changed it to Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah. He changed the cross so that cross and crown pins would be done away with to avoid any similarities of the bible students. He stated that studying the tabernacle was idolatry. He replaced Israel sign spiritual Israel when the evidence of what he wrote in “Comfort for the Jews” has all come true. He didn’t get rid of the Great Pyramid because it was false and pagan. He got rid of it because it didn’t support his 1918 doctrine. He started sending non spirit-begotten ones to second death. He messed that religion up. And claiming that you must obey it without question is wrong. Many will say “no we prove these things to yourselves” well if you only use their publications the, that’s circular reasoning.
I do hope you realize that we are not apostates who studied for a bit. You have those who will know more about that organization than you ever hope to.
Ask yourself. Why are you really on here? Doubts?
I had four people i had a study with and i can say they were some great people,. That were Jehovah;s witnesses,. The one thing i learned from 3 of them is the true bible teaching on money,. even this is a easy teaching but it was hard for me,. It may have been the one teaching that would have blocked me from the Kingdom of God,. I was greedy,. I knew most of the bible before any study with them,. Even if my days at the kingdom hall is over my love for them will be always The people i studied with i will always thank them and be nice to them,. They may shun me but what good does that do any body in this case,. TO MY FRIENDS AT THE KINGDOM HALL I SEND MY LOVE,. I AM WITH JEHOVAH AND CHRIST ON EARTH NOW AND MAY OR MAY NOT BE ONE OF THE BRIDE OR MAY LIVE ON EARTH OR NOT LIVE FOREVER AT ALL THATS UP TO ME CHRIST DONE HIS PART FOR ME AND YOU,. I AM A BIBLE STUDENT THAT BELONGS TO KNOW CHURCH OR ORGANIZATION,.
Kevin thank you for sharing your heart with us. I have dozens of family and friends that are witnesses and good people. I love them dearly. My children sent me their pictures of themselves and kids in their memorial clothes and at dinners.
My fault finding has always been with the organization and governing body rules and lies. Their slave tactics of control, pedophilia and money loving. Their shunning and mistreatment of people by the Gestapo elders.
I still speak to and help any JW.
It is good isn’t it to know Christ covered it all. Now you, me and all wanting to come to Jesus can and stop worship of the Pope like governing body.
You are welcome here and take it slowly and use the Bible to understand the different articles. Also you can join us on WWednesday night. Take care and ask questions brothers on here will do their best.
Thanks to the ones who cared who write me back,, I do not feel bad at this hour before i fix breakfast, Because what does being baptized mean it does not change who you are,. It does not change what you believe,.The man next to Jesus was he baptized ,. He witness on that act of faith in Jesus to more people then any one of us knows about ,. He made Jesus the truth,. Why was Jesus baptized it was for a witness to John,. the Father told us this is my son God is pleased with this man,. I have let the world know i have faith in God and Jesus i have done my works just like being baptized,. Being baptized should never be away used to control people,. Being baptized is works showing your faith its is symbolic like eating of the bread and wine as i did last night i used grape juice and bread and talked about Jesus having no sin in him,. I have showed people my faith,.Ihave faith and works i have been baptized by the spirit of God,. People may say i am crazy and in love with God,. I am that its true,. Jehovah loves me because i know his son Jesus.,,.
The bible students have a more loving God,. There are nice Jehovah;s witnesses who want to do what right,. I have been to two groups,. One talked about being saved,. The God on the Jehovah;s witnesses building is not Jehovah,. It is Jehovah;s witnesses That there, God,. ITS THE ORGANIZATION WHO IS THERE GOD,. THAT,.S MOSTLY WHO THEY PREACH ABOUT,. THEY COULD NOT SHUN ME I WAS NOT BAPTIZED AND NEVER HAVE BEEN BUT I AM FAITHFUL TO CHRIST,. I NEVER WILL GO BACK TO KINGDOM,.,. HALL,. AGAIN A LOT OF THEM WERE NICE TO ME I WONDER ABOUT NOW., I AM ALL RIGHT NOW I MADE IT,. I NEVER GOT BRAIN WASHED BY ANY RELIGION., I TALKED TO THE PEOPLE AT DAWN BIBLE IN NJ,. AND HAVE MANY OF THERE BOOKS TO STUDY,. AND CHICAGO BIBLE STUDENTS BOOKS AND THE BIBLE AND I WILL GO TO THE BAPTIST CHURCH BUT I AM NOT ONE OF THEM JUST I NEED TO BE WITH PEOPLE,. AS YOU KNOW I BELIEVE IN SO OF 1914 BUT I AM NOT A FAN OF THAT ONE TEACHING THE BIBLE STUDENTS HAVE,. BUT THE LOVING GOD IS WHO I AM WITH WE HAVE IN COMMON AND MOST OF THE OTHER TEACHINGS I AM NOT UPSET NOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME GETTING READY TO HAPPEN I NEVER WAS WITH THEM IN BEING ONE OF THERE EARTH ONLY PEOPLE., THEY SAY A PERSON KNOWS IF HE HAS THE CALLING AS THEY SAY,. YOU KNOW HOW YOU HAVE NO DESIRE FOR ANY THING ON EARTH,. I LIKE MY WATER AND FOOD THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT I AM HAPPY NOW., AND WILL DO THE RIGHT THING., THANKS