Romans 8:28 promises, “And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.” NASV. All of us desire to be close to our God Jehovah and his son, Jesus Christ. We long for their comfort, guidance and encouragement in our lives. We are promised in Isaiah 26:3, “You will keep him in perfect peace, Whose mind is stayed on You, Because he trusts in You.” NKJV. Yet when difficult and harsh experiences come, we sometimes feel alone and afraid. In Hebrews 13:5 we read, “God Himself has said, “I will never, never let go your hand: I will never never forsake you.” Weymouth. You are not alone. Your heavenly Father and his Son are watching over you. You are not alone. There are others like you who have experienced hard trials and difficult experiences. Take some time to share with us. To tell your story. To encourage others. That is what this Testimony section is for.
Hi everyone
Wow!! Maybe we are a bit tougher here in Africa, or maybe we just have a different disposition, but I feel impelled to write and respond, albeit belated, with a viewpoint to all these interesting comments. I have been mesmerized by all these stories! A thank you to all for sharing. I have been a witness all my life with the exception of a decade where I went walk-about after a messy divorce. Recently I gave myself permission to research and do the ‘unthinkable’ by visiting the internet and so-called questionable sites for JW and well, here I am. Three years ago I became intrigued with the question ‘Where on earth are the Russellites? Do they even still exist? and so began the journey.
Let me state clearly at the outset that I think we are all a little bit nuts! I mean that lovingly :)……I mean we are all so far removed from perfection that I honestly don’t believe anyone is right anymore. I am inclined to think that there must be an ace up Jehovah’s invisible sleeve because there are just too many variables and plausables in the ongoing deciphering of truth and interpretation of scripture. I sincerely believe that our understanding of truth is partial, incomplete and biased due to the human condition and therefore to enter into an endless debate over right and wrong inevitably becomes counterproductive.
You notice I said ‘gave myself permission’ to research, and I think herein lies the key for all but especially JW. Let me explain…..It dawned on me one day that if ‘new light’ has in time, turned out to be ‘old hack’ when examined with hindsight , and if this has happened on numerous occasions in 100 years, and if the GB themselves say quite openly (although creating the opposite impression) that they are not inspired, it follows that EVERYTHING in the publications and WT is an interpretation…EVERYTHING! It is just one possible interpretation of many other possibles. When you truly grasp and internalize that concept, you begin to free your mind. Slowly, but it’s a beginning. Fear diminishes within and the hold begins to loosen. However, the organization has had a hundred years head start on me. Would I take them on and challenge the order of things? Well, that’s just crazy. Like I said, maybe we are just tougher here in Africa, but I have weighed up the pros and cons of leaving vs staying, family, friends, my psychological health and coping mechanisms, etc. etc. and I am learning the art of spiritual ‘tap dance’. Love is the key to non judgement. And as long as my mind stays free, my body can be anywhere. And as long as I am certain none of us have an ‘absolute’ and water-tight interpretation of scripture and that Jehovah understands more than anyone my motivations, I will take my chances with this outlook.
So I report monthly what I can, I don’t reach out, I don’t answer up, I stay out of everyone’s business, I’m polite, I do a lot of smiling and small talk with everyone, I’m kind to all, helpful, etc. etc. I basically have created a mystery around me, but one thing I will never do is take on the power these old boys have behind them.
Now, I appreciate that not everyone can do this. Some are so hurt and they want retribution or to make a stand or some form of recognition after so many years of marginalization. But you have to know your limitations and be honest about what your personal situation requires. My situation requires a form of tight rope walking for now and I’m comfortable with that. It may change. Then I will readjust.
Years ago when I was still a teenager I realized that something doesn’t add up. It’s not a sustainable situation to spread things so thin over the globe with a minority in control. And now it’s all starting to unravel in the courts with gag orders over paedophilia and the reinvention of ‘generations’ . Anyway, it’s a slow process. But my decision to go back to the beginning of Russell and Rutherford to understand what really happened, is proving fruitful. Beth-Sarem…what ….on earth …was Rutherford thinking??
I hope these few thoughts might shed ‘new light’ ;)) for a few readers. I am fortunate that I don’t have any of the difficult situations others describe in their lives in the above posts and like I said, this glove won’t fit all. But it is one alternative to breaking away so suddenly so as to cause unnecessary damage to self.
Jerry (the) Kann
Jerry Kann, hello and welcome. I like this. I agree with your concept of the deep damage that occurs , especially in the beginning. We call it a slow fade over here, the longer the fade the better. The thing is to become invisible in plain sight but because you are there no one knows what to say. I did if from 2000-2009, it took almost a year before anyone was sure I had left. Like you there was no immediate event that made me angry.
I hope many will read this.
Giving yourself permission, that’s the key. Witnesses self regulate themselves by constantly attending the meetings and getting reinforced. If a witness read or listen for 1 month to any other logic they will began to question.
You need to consider becoming a writer, I was held spellbound as you weaved your story.
Feel free to ask any questions and others will jump in. Take Care and keep being free thinking, it will get you to Christ and the understanding that the Bible does reveal, although cveiled the Divine Plan of God. Peace, Jacqueline
Jarry Kann;
I would recomend that you read some of the articles on the “Ransom for all”, you find that the “Ransom for all sorts of” is not the work Jesus performed and it is the doctrine that sheds light on truth!!! Truth that has not changed since Jesus gave his life nearly 2,000 years ago.
Jerry you made a good point that we do not have all the truth and no one does but realy that is what paul stated when he said we know partialy but when that arrive which is complete all things partial will be made complete. But there are definite truths that shed light on truth such as the Ransom for all that helps us to understand the divine plan of Jehovah.
Hello Jerry Kann,
I appreciate your story. I particularly notice your humility in your expressions. You and I have a similar take on staying in the organization. And agree that Jehovah is the only one that understands situations. I too am fortunate that I have no bad experiences, yet, as I expect them to come. When they do, I am unfazed because I would already would have been faded away. I too will readjust when I am absolutely guided by the spirit to do so. I also like to point you made concerning that we ALL are so far removed from perfection than ALL are susceptible to faults. Jehovah has always done his own cleansing in his own due time… In a way I am doing the cliche ‘wait on Jehovah’ that many cringe at but, it is my reliance, refuge and strength only for those who are able. I thank God I am able. And may Jehovah continue to bless and guide you and as you look to him in all things.
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Abound in Him,
Cazenovi
Update
I have my letter of disassociation to the Kingdom Hall after I partook at the memorial. I flip flopped between emails of going and not going back. I sent my final email to my elder today. Here is what I said
Good afternoon Dave,
After speaking with both sides. I’ve come to my final conclusion. I wish to no longer be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. I have many beliefs that cannot be reconciled. I love to follow JESUS to JEHOVAH. But statements in the watchtower that says “”Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it.” Watchtower1983 Feb 15 p.12″. This bothers my conscience to the extreme. Or “”In effect, Jesus also conveys Jehovah’s voice to us as he directs the congregation through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) We need to take this guidance and direction seriously, for our everlasting life depends on our obedience.” Watchtower2014 Aug 15 p.21″
We have an article coming up that states that how we treat the anointed remnant will determine if we are judged as a sheep or a goat. Where does it says this? In that parable we see the nations of the earth being gathered before the throne and judged according to their treatment of the anointed remnant. That makes no sense. 7 billion don’t even know who these anointed are? Plus how can they be judged when the trial period of 1000 years hasn’t happened? The article states that the separating is at the beginning of the millennium. I disagree. You can’t the entire earth until after the judgement period. Not before.
I don’t believe that the Governing Body is the Faithful and discreet slave. And I do not believe that JEHOVAH has an organization. The pedophile cover ups and mother-child deaths over no blood transfusions are appalling. If I don’t get out of Babylon then I will share in these too! Russell took us out of captivity and bondage to men. Rutherford brought us right back in.
The Bible teaches that fleshly Israel will be restored back to their home land in the last days.
Jeremiah 30:3
“For “look! the days are coming,” declares Jehovah, “when I will gather the captives of my people, Israel and Judah,” says Jehovah, “and I will bring them back to the land that I gave to their forefathers, and they will possess it once again.”’”
Amos 9:11,14,15
“11 ‘In that day I will raise up the booth of David that is fallen, I will repair the breaches, And I will restore its ruins; I will rebuild it as in the days of long ago,14 I will gather back the captives of my people Israel, And they will rebuild the desolated cities and inhabit them; They will plant vineyards and drink their wine, And make gardens and eat their fruit.’ 15 ‘I will plant them on their land, And they will never again be uprooted From their land that I have given them,’ says Jehovah your God.”
Incase you haven’t been watching the new the JEWS are going back to Israel by the droves. And they are planting vineyards and are progressing a and rebuilding Jerusalem and their agriculture is amazing. It’s all coming true as Russell said.
That has nothing to do with spiritual Israel. And there about 50 more that say the same thing about Israel.
In a recent article “You are now God’s People.” It states that Isaiah 66:8 refers to Judge RUTHERFORD, who took over the society illegally, got out of jail!! Russell said that it means that the nation of Israel would be born in a day. And sure enough during Christs Parousia Israel in 1948 was declared a nation in one day! And the people are returning to their land by the masses. Either JWs are right and all of the Bible’s prophesies are wrong or JWs are wrong and the Bible is Right.
Also the Bible teaches that there is one faith ONE HOPE one baptism. Not 2 hopes. Yes there will be billions resurrected on the earth but no one is called to be an earthly class. The earth is for people before JESUS opened the way and the retired mankind. We are all in the race for the high calling. No one is called to be of the great multitude. So let’s think if there were to be partakers and non partakers why didn’t JESUS preach this in the memorial supper?
These are just many irreconcilable facts that I cannot believe and remain a witness. It bothers my conscience. This is all I was going to tell you on Thursday night bi had no plans of coming back. I just didn’t think it was fair. This is my firm decision. I do not with to meet. Sure I don’t want to leave. I loved my congregation. Everyone was so sweet to me. However, I never thought I would be leaving. But I can’t stay in good conscience.
I will leave for ONE year. And if I decided that the Bible Students are not for me then I will surely come back. But for now. I have to leave sorry to be wasting your time.
Chris – Thanks for sharing your letter to your congregation elder. You are very courageous and I cannot imagine that you will not suffer some consequences or persecution for your stand.
2 Timothy 3:12 (NASV) “all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.”
I think many of us will be praying for you, that Jehovah continue to give you strength, courage and comfort.
You made your case very clearly and very well. I was smiling as I read your words. Now less experienced people might wonder how your JW elder will respond to you, however, most of us realize from experience that JW authority will not engage in honest debate at this point. You will simply be disfellowshiped and publicly denounced before the congregation. This is a potential downside of officially withdrawing, that it will close the door to possible communication and witnessing to members of your former JW Congregation. However, perhaps your courage will do more to inspire many of us outside your former JW congregation than you could ever have hoped to aid in your old JW Congregation.
Romans 8:28 (NASV) “And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.”
May Jehovah bless you our dear friend.
This is Chris testimony:
Well. I’ve decided to quit and join the Bible Students. I went to the Memorial with the Jehovah’s Witnesses on Friday and I partook and went out to dinner. I spent the whole day cleaning the Kingdom Hall. I then sent in my letter of disassociation to the elder whom I loved the most. I text my friends and that was it. He wrote back asking if I wanted to talk or was I firm in my decision. I said I was firm. But I then asked if I could still go to the conventions. Because I want to get all the new publications that I don’t agree with anyway. So I agreed to meet with him this Thursday and said that I don’t want to leave anymore. Well after talking with some friends I emailed him back and said that I didn’t want to meet anymore and that I didn’t believe that the faithful and discreet slave was the governing body or that it was Jehovah’s organization. I never believed that anyway. It’s been a tough weekend and it’s saddenning. I will miss them. If I feel this bad now how would I feel,if I had family or some friends in there. I was there for 6 years. Gonna miss it. But Jehovah will take me in.
Dear Chris, this has been a long week for you indeed! Many here are not aware of your conversations with many of the brothers by messenger and other avenues.
This is a time for prayer. I encouraged you to come on here so you could get some moral support and I trust these brothers will jump in and lend you that support. Today is a long travel day for me and I might not see any comments unless I check in when I stop along the road.
There are many on here and they will help you. It would be encouraging if the audience saw the conversations with you and would give insight as to what is happening in your life. You also can bring them up to date on why you are having this struggle.
It is like a death Chris, it is a process of grieving. Asking the Father to send the Holy Spirit to comfort you in Jesus name. I will be praying for you and will get back at least when I arrive at my destination.
Chris…
Don’t look to the things behind, but instead move forward and be greatful your journey lead you to the truth. I was 20 years, and 12 of those an Elder. I noticed a long time ago there was something wrong and just didnt know about the Bible Students until a couple years back. I have a son at Bethel a brother, sister in-law and their daughter still active. My brother closest in age who I studied with has stopped attending meetings along with his wife and son. I have two other children in their early 20’s that have stopped as well because of what ive shared with them. I’m greatful that they listened and were set free from enslavement to an organization and the second death/Armegeddon fear that JW’s use like the nominal church’s Hell Fire. Learning the Ransom for all has been a real blessing and also seeing how loving Jehovah realy is has been a real blessing. Chris you are fortunate to be able to walk away and be free without the wories so many of us who recognize the truth about the truth have to deal with..
Chris may Jah bless you
Thank you so much
Hello brothers and sisters,
My name is Christopher and this is my story. It is long but it is true.
I would like to tell you my story about how I awakened to the truth about the truth. After my dad threw me out of my house in 2008 I knew that I needed to find something that helped me become a better person. I was a Wiccan for 13 years and I always was on a quest for the “Divine.” I always believed that something was bigger than me and always had questions on my mind. Even at 12 the main question that entered my mind was “if there is a Judgment Day and there are people in Hell, then will God pull them out and judge them again and throw them back in.” It made no sense to me. I always had it in the back of my mind that Jesus was right. I just absolutely loved being a Witch. I love the magick of being able to call on the god and goddess and worship with the full moon. But I was still empty something was missing. I still had it in my mind that there was a burning hell that witches would roast in. I owned 23 Ouija Boards and tarot cards and everything witchy.I then found a book called “Heaven and Hell” by Kenneth Zeigler. It was a fictional story about a couple (one Christian and one Wiccan) who died in a car crash and one went to heaven and one went to hell. The one in heaven for some reason couldn’t forget about his wife in hell. When she went to hell Satan gave her 48 hours to walk through his domain. She explained that homosexuals had to climb a mountain for all eternity and jump off and would break all their bones and that they demons would make them climb back up. They would regenerate and do it again. And lawyers would be tied to black marble altars and vultures would pick them clean and they would regenerate and it would be done forever. I was terrified that I gave up Wicca and started to follow Jesus in a sense. I was so scared of going to hell.
Now, around the same time I lived with my boyfriend. I no longer do for it is a sin. I was doing my college homework and the name “Jehovah” came to my head. Well my roommate had a New World Translation. I didn’t really know it was for JWs. Well the only time I had ever heard the name Jehovah was when Jehovah’s Witnesses would come to the door. Well I knew that there was a Kingdom Hall down the street. I went to work that night and someone wanted to work for me so I went home got changed and went. They gave me a book “What does the bible really teach?.” It was fascinating!! There was no hell and that God’s name is Jehovah. And God’s going to restore this earth to a paradise. That there were 144,000 that were going to heaven. The people were nice and they showed me evidence form the bible to show what they believed and it was awesome. I never started a bible study there and was still living with my boyfriend. We broke up about 4 months later. I was deeply depressed for months. I cried all day never went to class and was sent home from work for being too emotional. I would cry in the bathroom. well you get the picture. Well I was tired of being sad all of the time. I grew up in an abusive home and the only person who loved me said that they didn’t really. So I was crushed. Well I was in bed one day crying and I said “Jehovah I can’t do this anymore please take this from me.” And it was gone!!!! instantly. That when I decided to go back to the Kingdom Hall. I started studying the bible and the one scripture that really stuck out even until today ‘Jehovah is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit” PSA 34:18. It was true. Well I was baptized May 26, 2012. In the back of the current Watchtower Magazines, there was always sometime “From our Archives” that discussed the Bible Students. I wanted to know what it was the Charles Taze Russell had written. I did a search and found out that there were Bible Students that still existed. I found out that they sold the ‘Studies in the Scriptures” books. I bought them at once. I called them and they were so nice. I was so excited. But I still remained with the witnesses. I had so many. I’ve always been a logical person. So when I heard that the Bible Students used to teach that the Great Crowd was a secondary heavenly class. I was like wow. I wanted to see why this was. OS I researched it and it made sense but I still remained with what the witnesses were teaching. I remember that when I went to my first memorial in 2011 I was so excited. I passed the wine and bread right on by because that’s what everyone else was doing. However, I felt guilty right after the fact. I went to other churches desperate for communion. The next 2 years I did the same. every year before the Memorial I would be so anxious before and after. However, in 2014 the same emotions aroused. I was desperate and about to go off the edge. I was thinking about going to a Kingdom Hall where no on ever knew me and I would partake there. But I wanted to be with my congregation. I wrote my elders who just responded that people in the congregation would think “what makes him so special, I’ve done more field service and have been in the truth longer.” I told him in response ‘We have been chosen in union with him before the founding of the world.” In witness theology you know you have to be part of the anointed to be able to partake. I had a doubt in my mind if I was but I was going to partake any ways. I told my friend I was going to partake and she supported me and wanted to see this. So the night arrived and I was a wreck full of nerves. My friend in the congregation sat next to me. I was shaking full of anxiety. The plate of bread came to me. I picked a piece and ate it. Then the wine. I felt so much better like the holy spirit blessed me. The scripture that came to me was “if you deny me before men I will deny you before my father.” I knew it was the right thing to do.
I was watching some Christian movies that were full of Christ-like people. I said “if they are that nice and love Jesus and Jehovah then how come they can’t be called true Christians?” I started to ponder this. I remember as a witness always getting online and arguing with people. I remember having a pair of Mormon missionaries who I would debate and group of Mormon friends whom I would debate. But my Mormon friends seemed so Christ-like. I wanted to join their religion. but the believed in the Spirits existed in heaven and depart the body at death. I loved reading my book of Mormon, but it seemed to contradict the bible. I was lost. I knew JWs weren’t Christ-Like.
Month later was starting to have this obsession with anything Bible Students. I bought everything. I now have 4 sets of reprints and ever Bible Student book imaginable. I have huge posters of the Great Pyramid Passages and Chart of the ages. I have every known edition of the Studies volumes. I back ordered all of the Herald, Dawn, Bible Standard, The End times. I couldn’t get enough. I finally learned that the Great Multitude was in heaven and that we are called to run the race for the high calling. Not to be chosen now to tell the “other sheep” what to do. I have met so many wonderful bible students. I have been studying. I then talked to a man at the PBI and he put me in touch with en ecclesia 5 mins from my house. How blessed I was because I hear many who are the only ones for hundreds of miles. What drove me to search them out was I was getting bored with the current Watchtower magazines. Everything was about marriage kids, and imitating Jehovah and just boring. I found that when I ordered all the back issues of the Herald that I was being fed down into the deepest levels of my soul. This is what I needed. I sent a picture of a watchtower cover to my Bible Student sister in Australia and she said “That’s good if you want to live on the earth.” It had three articles in a row about marriage YAWN. I then ordered the book “Crisis of Conscience” and :In search of Christian Freedom”. What sent me over the edge was that fact that when 1975 failed the blamed the members and took no responsibility. I have no grudge again my Brothers and Sisters in the Watchtower for they are only building off the errors that came before them. And todays Governing Body can’t be blamed for what happened back then. But the pedophiles and the loose conduct being covered up sickens me. I know for a fact that if they claim they are not inspired then how can their interpretations of scriptures be Truth? They can’t. I remember about 2 months ago I went to told something exciting about the meanings of the names of the 12 tribes in revelation and that it describes the Bride of Christ. The JWs reply was “Where did you get this? This is not from the slave and isn’t true.” I thought to myself “why do I need a group of men to tell me what to believe? Why do I need to wait on them to tell me what it true. Truth is truth no matter where it is found.” So I’ve made my decision. I’m going with the Bible Students. They make more sense. there are pros and cons to both groups but I have the heavenly home and that’s where I want to be. With Jesus!!!!
Christopher, I see this but am waiting on others to see it before I comment
WELCOME, my brother, we enjoyed meeting you and your participation in the Wednesday night study.
Chris,
Thanks for this remarkable testimony! What a journey you have been through! I beleive that one of the evidences that God’s Holy Spirit is working with you is a passion and hunger for deeper study and learning in God’s Word.
John 16:13 (Concordant) “Yet whenever that may be coming—the spirit of truth–it will be guiding you into all the truth…”
The New Creature’s new spiritual mind is first nurtured on milk, but then meat is needed, and finally strong meat (Heb. 5:12)—the deeper ramifications of divine promise. This is the progression that John referred to when he said, “[The holy Spirit] will guide you into all truth.”
1 John 2:20,27 (KJV) “Ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things…the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you . . . the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth . . . even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him”
For the sake of uniformity and control, the JW Organization keeps is simple. However there are so many more deeper and beautiful Gems of Truth to mine.
I am glad you have connected with local Bible Students. You will not have a problem partaking of the memorial next time. I wonder how the JWs at the Kingdom Hall reacted when they saw you had partaken.
When connected with witchcract did encounter people demon possessed? Were they ever able to shake the connection with demons?
Hello Peter,
Thank you for the encouraging words. No didnt see any demon possessed people. I never rally met any other witches that weren’t teens trying to rebel. I did it becasue I believe in it. I guess the hardest part is feeling like I call called to the witnesses. I asked myself “why would I leave the JWs injehivah himself called me to it?” I honestly think it was becasue that’s how I was introduced to the Bible Students and wouldn’t have known about them otherwise. I love the deepest stuff. Many witnesses are so watered down that they can’t even defend the Trinity from the Bible. It’s so simple it’s boring. I like to be challenged when I read.
Chris, I think when called you have to be trained and travel on a journey. It is like a soldier if he gets thru basic training he understands war a little better. I also felt a spiritual void, especially when they said all of the Bible was fulfilled except about 4 things. To me it didn’t make sense that God revealed so little of himself and nothing about Jesus.
But dealing with them revealed who and what they were frauds. If there was a counterfeit I wondered which religion held the real thing. Then I discovered how to work the internet in 2004 and had learned how to search. Many that posted their horrors with the religion let me know I wasn’t imagining the spiritual deficit, lack of knowledge of the Bible. Raymond Franz, bless him. He told the truth and God called me only after I emptied myself and repented for worshipping men.
Your journey was profound. I will later write about a lady just like you that I knew.
Chris….What a beautiful story! Welcome to a more fulfilling life within the Bible Students.I have learned more in 1 year with B.S. than in 40yrs as a jw. Welcome & Peace dear friend.
Chris is at his first Bible Student convention in Florida today. I am talking to him now on messenger. I Will tell him he has a reply. He is also sending a witness to the site to ask us questions about dying at Armageddon and the great crowd. So look out for that poster tonight or since They have the site they may just read it first.
I have had hours of one of the most powerful conversations in my life outside of the organization. It has been with a poster that would light this site up as he made his point. I won’t spoil it.. He wants to tell us where he is now. He actually goes to the kingdom hall and takes Bible Students material and speak out, openly. I personally feel he has a death wish, lol, but his courage warms my heart.
Hopefully he will tell his story tomorrow on here.
PS: He has posted. He I Chris and what a story!!!
I am here with my grandfather who appears to be shutting down & very close to the end of his days. To me it looks like he wont make it to this weekend. I was able to call into an ecclesia meeting tonight.The Bible Students r such beautiful people! I’m grateful that my prayers to the LORD have been answered many times while i’m in association with the brethren of Bible Students. I learned leaving jw is like leaving Jehovah. Then why is he still answering my prayers & listening to my Thanksgiving? Because Jehovah see’s the Bible Students love him. And they have been such a blessing to me.
Dundee – So sorry for your pain and loss. Some words of comfort from Isaiah.
Isaiah 12:2
Surely God is my salvation; I will trust and not be afraid. The LORD, the LORD himself, is my strength and my defense; he has become my salvation. (NIV)
Isaiah 49:13
Shout for joy, you heavens; rejoice, you earth; burst into song, you mountains! For the LORD comforts his people and will have compassion on his afflicted ones. (NIV)
Isaiah 57:1-2
Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time. But no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come. For those who follow godly paths will rest in peace when they die. (NIV)
Dear Dundee, may God send you help at this time to comfort you. You have been a faithful and blessed grandson to your grandfather on the last leg of his journey. Well done my little brother! Now let him go to his God and yours. He can rest for a while now and so can you. He appreciates your love and kindness sticking with him until the end.
Dundee by your deeds you are a son of God don’t worry about what people say. You have seen the power of the Holy Spirit. And so have I seen it sustain you. It is a test and a trial for you. Take it to the end in Faith.
We will be here for you in the aftermath as family might discourage you but hopefully they will see you were there till the end. Love you and praying for you in these last hours.
Keep your computer up and call out to us we will be monitoring the site to help you.
And my little brother CRY. IT TOO IS A GIFT FROM GOD. Now is the time to let it out in entreaty to the hearer of prayer. Amen and God Bless!
Dundee, I am very sorry to hear about your Grandfather, by what I have read you have been there for him continously, it doesn’t matter what anyone else says, assumes or thinks, YOU know the the truth. Now is the time once again to throw your anxieties & burdens upon our Father in Heaven, He will keep you safe, He will stop you from falling, He will sustain you.
Psalms 55:22, “Cast your burden upon the LORD and He will sustain you; He will never allow the righteous to be shaken.”
Isaiah 41:10, “Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God I will strengthen you, surely I will help you, Surely I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.”
Matthew 11:28-30, “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. “For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
John 14:27,”Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you Do not let your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful.”
1 Peter 5:7, “casting all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you.”
Philippians 4:6, “Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.”
Philippians 4:13, “I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.”
I lost my Dad about 4 years ago & it was a very difficult time for my family & I as we were all very close to him, especially me. I held it together for the family & for myself too. I could not have done this without my faith & trust in Jehovah God, I kept praying for strength & guidance & I know He was there for me cushioning the blows, carrying me through the pain just as He still does to this day. I am nothing, a sinner, an imperfect man not worthy of God’s loving kindness but I knew that without Jehovah God’s help I would not have been able to cope as well as I did/have. He showed great mercy & His loving kindness I am forever grateful to Him for. I always kept the hope & faith in the promised resurrection at the forefront of my mind & knew that it was not the end for my Dad but in fact it was actually a new beginning awaiting him. The same new beginning awaits your Grandfather my friend, he will sleep in peace until the day he will rise again surrounded by eternal love in Paradise conditions.
Take care . . . .
Warm & loving regards,
Daz
Daz,
Thank You
Hi Dundee, no problem my friend, no thanks necessary, I hope the scriptures helped.
Dundee do you feel like giving us an update? Have the rest of the family come in yet? How are you holding up? Praying for you and your family at this sorrowful time but rejoicing that Christ Conquered this enemy death and you will see your grand father again.
John 16:33 American Standard Version (ASV)
33 These things have I spoken unto you, that in me ye may have peace. In the world ye have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
All our troubles are covered we and your grandfather will have the chance to be overcomers with him. Take Care my little brother.
Jacqueline,
My grandfather has lost conscienceness. He no longer speaks. He started to make a noise like Ahhhh…..Ahhhh……Ahhhhh……Ahhhh every 3-5 seconds. Throws up a dark brownish fluid periodically.(Is that perhaps Bile??) He no longer can eat or drink. He no longer moves. We have him in a hospital bed in our home. The rest of is family is not here with him. Only my mom & I care for him 24/7. The Doctor was sick & didn’t make a house call Friday. We hope the doctor will visit Monday.Hospice evaluation cancelled on Friday because the DR. didn’t call them back. The Dr. was sick, nothing we can do bout that. Hopefully Hospice will arrive on Tuesday IF the DR. calls them with the necessary info. For now I found the legal documents necessary in his caregiving when his condition becomes terminal, 6 months or less to live. I have his Advance Directive & Durable Power of Attorney for Health Care. It stipulates not to prolong his life. To withhold food & drink, life support, & all the other unpleasantries the hospital puts in every crevice. But to give him pain management & make him comfortable. We just wait for the doctor to diagnose. We even have the hospice prescription that states a brain tumor. So I’m covering myself from any questioning from the Doctor or Hospice. I even have a ledger recording every significant event & when we freshen him up, etc. I pray constantly with him. I read out loud passages from the Bible. I explained the earthly paradise he will return to & how he would be reunited with his deceased wife again. And I gave him permission to rest & pass the torch to me, that i will care for his handicap daughters. That we will be alright. His eyes welled up with tears, though he cannot speak, I knew he heard & understood. We are just waiting for some medical direction. But in the meantime we are attending to everything necessary. I continue in Faith. I cannot read now, but all that I’ve studied is now returning to be a comfort during this hour, & the kind words of you all on this web site.
Thank you so much for the update. The systems failing means as you stated he can hear but is in no pain. Nourishment would start the digestive tract and that would be to painful for him. He knows you will see to his daughters and he is ready now. Now is the time to read this stage, for it looks like you are there.
I used to be on the hospice team and I understand what their absence is saying. Please read this. Knowing what is happening is best.
https://www.caring.com/articles/signs-of-death also https://www.caring.com/articles/witness-passing-away
You are being tested for endurance and your ability to understand and help to the end to bring the many to righteousness with Christ.
Although all mankind groan together there are trials unique to the new creature, we endure with the knowledge and hope for the future helping of mankind. There are others among mankind past and present that are just like you being a man and showing you understand the task that will be set before you when your grandfather and the rest of mankind will need help and compassion as they run for their life under the banner of Christ. You are doing a good job, you have all your ducks in a row. All papers that you will need. Hug your MOM for all of us and tell her we are praying for her to endure and have peace. Peace, my brother.
Jacqueline,
Those articles were perfect. I read that 1st one previously. So I already understood that one. But the 2nd one I had not read till now. Thank you for that information. I appreciate your medical expertise along with your hospice background. I let him know that his sister had died. I had kept that from him but felt that now would be an appropriate time in case he was worried for her. I appologized for not telling him sooner but didn’t want him to get sick over it previously He stopped making noise with every breath for a few minutes. Again he must of heard.
Yes he heard you and now he doesn’t have to worry about her.
You are doing every thing right. What a jewel you are, your maturity is showing and we feel better knowing you are holding up.
Our hearts are touched when we learn of the difficult experiences of our brethren. May we continue to pray for grace, for strength, for encouragement, (not for physical healing), and for the will of the heavenly Father to be done in all matters. ” We do know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.” (Rom 8:28)
Grandfather has passed away early this morning. I slept next to him all night & woke finding him pale..lifeless. I stared in disbelief. The day has finally come. Am grateful he is resting now awaiting his resurrection in the Kingdom. The house is silent. My Faith still strong!
Hi Dundee, I am sorry, my sincere condolances go out to you & your family but you are obviously taking comfort in the fact that your GrandFather in not suffering any longer & is at peace & yes now you have the resurrection to look forward to. I am glad that your faith has remained strong throughout. Take comfort in your God Jehovah.
Matthew 5:4, “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.”
Take care my friend.
Warm & loving regards,
Daz
Dear Dundee, it is over and you have fought a courageous fight giving strength to your grandfather. I knew last night when you told him about his sister he would go to her as he might have been waiting for her to come see him before he left us.
Is there anything you need us to do on this end? Please post the obituary page when you make final arrangements so we can write on it, if appropriate. Love you, rest up today and let others take over. You need this sleep for what lies ahead. Love you and your mom.your sister, Jacqueline
I want to tell you my most recent experience. Recently I’ve thanked Jehovah that he helped me while in an environment of mind control, being aware that something wasn’t right. I felt like I was the only one there that felt this at the time. Always grateful to the Lord that he kept his promise & provided an escape for me & in addition a place to flee to within the city of refuge, the Household of Brethren among the Bible Students.
My minor child, i see has been drifting away from religion due to harsh experiences among jw’s.So I supplicated Jehovah & asked him to keep my child in view. To recognize the drift. To remember the experience. And that now Lord,teenage yrs are here. At an age of increased activities within the org. Then the ultimate commitment of baptism into the organization. The elders have been demanding at the mothers cong. that the start begin now. So I asked Jehovah that he can help see with clarity IF the activities should begin or not. Help to know what to do. At a crossroads my child didn’t want ANY religion. So this is what happened…
My child overheard a conversation revealing some of jw moms secrets & having a venerial disease. She had been inactive for a couple years & not making the kids go to meetings but now all of a sudden started up because of hitting rock bottom finding out she had HIV. Now she is forcing the religion on the kids. My kids are worried she will die of AIDS eventually while she’s hiding this from the elders.
In my heart I’ve been struggling with people taking my x wife’s side in the religion but then in court the judge saw that I was the one telling the truth. So I contacted one of the elders & told him her secret.As a jw we learned it not gossip if we confide in an elder something to get scriptural counsel & encouragement. So the one elder I was in contact with via text mesg’s, was an old friend that was there for me during my marital problems & was able to help me thru it. He was a M.S. at the time, but now is an elder. I felt compelled uncontrollably to tell him what was going on (very briefly.)Well the exact words of our conversation got back to my x. Then when I dropped the kids off to her for her parenting time a couple weeks ago, she interrogated the kids. Asked them what they told me. And that now its spread thru-out her previous cong. The kids denied telling me anything. She told them Jehovah hates them, that he hates liers. My kids come back to me after their visit & tell me. Then my kid asks me who I spoke to. I mentioned a jw elder. They mentioned I got them in trouble cause the elder is not to be trusted apparently. So I compared my text. It was word for word what got back to the kids thru their mom.
So I contacted the elder & told him he divulged confidentiality. I was merely confiding in him, an elder, & i did not tell another member of the cong, but that he did it for me. How amazing how the truth comes out & I didn’t break protocol by gossiping to anyone. Cause they would DF me on slander no doubt. I told the elder that my x made fun of me that she has the certain 3 elders wrapped around her finger. The 3 elders that sided with her adultery while threatening me.
Well yesterday I drove the kids all the way to their mother, then when i finally got home i get a bang on the door, it was ONE of my kids, while the other was still with their mother in the car. I was told that my child was thrown out after receiving multiple calls from various jw’s advising her. My child now is disowned as a young teenager. Said that my child is diseased as I allegidly am.(She is not a psychiatrist so how she can diagnose is beyond me, when my attorneys in court said that my x has something wrong with her mentally, they were requesting the judge to have her evaluated.) Mother told my one child that if there is not a confession to what kingdom hall I am attending, my child is no longer welcome in her home indefinitely.My child said that there is civil rights that make it unnecessary for her to demand this info. Mother dumped child to me,
while keeping my daughter to manipulate for the weekend. My one child did not compromise under pressure! I’m So Proud!
Brother Peter shared with me Romans 8:28. To know that this will work out for those that love the LORD. I love the LORD. That amidst the pain he’s allowing us, there will be good that will result from this. After spending time with my child this next day, there was good communication. Also saying that no more will step foot into a kingdom hall, because these friends are messing up our lives viciously! My child said would rather attend the ecclesia, that the people there are much nicer than the jw’s.
So this is a very interesting situation that arose after my prayer, & my mistake of confiding into a so called man of God. My child has been praying on their own now & praying for sister,that she doesn’t break under pressure. Bro.Peter always says…whats the worst that can happen? My daughter doesn’t know the name of the ecclesia. Will she say I’m with the Bible Students? Its out of my hands. I have to trust the LORD that he knows whats best for me & will lead me out of the chaos.
It would be nice that on Monday, my x can realize that civil rights were fought hard for. We all have Civil Rights. But the jw’s we’ve crossed paths with, along with the kids mom, don’t understand that Liberty the law allows of worship. I worship the Father that they cannot comprehend his mercy & his love. They paint him as a God that loves to destroy. They believe that, because that is what keeps them all in servitude.Fear, Guilt, Shame everyone into worship a certain way or else complete annihalation. I don’t miss living in fear one bit. She sends a text to me that I must take the kids to the kingdom hall!! I reply “ok”. She has no authority to tell me where I must worship. I am confident all will work out for good in time. But my heart is heavy today…the load is too much! I cannot throw it to the Lord but can only Roll it to him. I know he has been holding me up with his right hand in Isaiah chapt.41. Please pray that all will work out.That my child isn’t harmed from this experience but that it guides him to the TRUTH. I can see though thru the experience, the Bible Students have become appealing now. A renewed interest in Faith. Reliant on Jehovah to help thru this. Good has already happened in this young servant of the LORD. A closer bond is being forged. My child has become aware that it wasn’t safe in the environment among some that have been on the attack.
Read this http://imgur.com/a/z4K2t it is about confidentiality.
Dear Dundee, my brother if I was satan and I couldn’t get you to give up faith in Jesus, I would go thru the children and that my brother is what he is doing! Your wife is walking the walk and talking the talk so it wouldn’t matter about her life, gossip or whatever. You have a working brain and are questioning so you are the enemy to them even if your wife was living with a man not here husband. In field service J-Witness elders tell everything they know from judicial meeting to a private discussion. A real elder or priest would ask you not to talk if it was something they couldn’t keep confidential. We try to tell people how the organization runs but some still won’t believe how the elders behave like gossiping women with too much time on their hands not like men entrusted with shepherding the flock.
It seems God has heard your prayer already as you have one child and the other will tell you are with the Bible Students. Limping between two religions may appear hypocritical to your children or they may be wise enough to understand your trying to protect them.
I in my 62 years as a witness have never heard of a witness not openly say they are a witness and they will even write their former church a letter.
You are in America, the United States and as such you are guaranteed freedom to choose the religion of your choice. Unless your wife has a court order stating you must take them to a kingdom hall you don’t have to.See this document written by the society to fool the state and doctors, this same document can be used against them to prove your child is a mature adult and can decide which religious meeting they want to go to if any.
I haven’t found the letter but it states that children, even 13yr olds can decide if they want to take blood transfusion and it teaches parents how to coach them. So you children are olde enough to decide if they want to go to their religious meetings. God doesn’t cause this type of confusion.
My peace only came when I told everyone that I was associating with the Bible Students. I was almost attacked by one daughter in law and one son said I was dead as far as he was concerned. Many of my eight siblings with their wives and children vocally spoke out. The first month was enough to push a weak minded person over the edge but armed with power of Christ I stood against them. (I would have to run back to our ecclesia meetings for support and comfort and go right back in, lol) YOU CAN TOO, HE HAS GIVEN YOU GIFTS IN MEN AN ECCLESIA!! Some don’t have brothers to stand them up and stand behind them. YOU DO! The organization of Jehovah witnesses disfellowshipped many of their grandparents and parents. It is a dangerous and destructive sect and you have to watch your children mental and emotional health. What you are expressing might mean you need to have someone talk to them to make sure this craziness of this organization isn’t getting to them.
Dundee, we can’t tell you what to do but if you were a woman in an abusive situation with a male, I would tell you leaving is the worse part when you are in danger, things get volatile and heated. I would advise get completely away from the situation and stop touching or going back into a dangerous situation.
I see mental and emotional anquish in your writings. Get away from those people, your daughter will see the peace of your son and you or she may make a decision to stay with the religion that is her right under the law and the law of Jehovah.
One step at a time, you have been called to peace because you don’t have to live a lie anymore. Just walk away, don’t think about writing those people a letter and for mental safety be selfish (love yourself) and DON’T MEET IN A JUDICIAL MEETING WITH THEM. tHAT IS A LEGAL TERM (JUDICIAL) AND THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY OR POWER WITHIN THE UNITED STATES. To meet with them will be to let them jab and demean you. There are too many experiences on the internet for anyone to come on here and say that won’t happen. The meeting will be about putting you out but you should just walk away and stop talking to those elders you are a man just like them and have from God the power over your household.
Only witness men let other men talk in their household. You will have to deal back and forth with your wife because those are you guys children but those other men talking in your house, no. I went to court and got a restraining order to shut down the elders in my cong and it was granted. You have rights as a father also.
It was painful to see you up against this but this is the worse and after this each week and month will get better as you can say openly that you have left them. Again as they make members write a letter to throw up in the face of their former religion that they have left, you also can show it by refusing to discuss your personal business with men who should be over their own wife. You and your wife (or ex) will face many problems with the children if AIDS or HIV become unmanageable for her. You are hurt now but when she get sick and you see the pain in your children’s face you will help her and them thru it.
You are the man, ex husband and FATHER of this clan. Don’t let those men blurr the real issues here, helping your children cope with what is ahead.
I hate to report this but an elder in Alabama wife died of cancer not a year ago and he is about to remarry.He and I went to school together and he said my conduct caused him to check out the witnesses as an adult. He didn’t pay attention to how the children was coping, his youngest son was DF’d even.
HE BLEW HIS BRAINS OUT YESTERDAY! WATCH YOUR CHILDREN! SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP IF NECCESSARY! Take Care, my brother and may God Bless, keep and help you thru this. Jacqueline
Jacqueline,
Thank you for these words. myself & my mom,my son, just had our eyes opened today. Though Peter was trying to pry them open & I would hear everything he says, but I feel very betrayed by the org.& so I react at times.It feels like an uncontrolable force within me to speak up to these bully’s.
I can’t wait to speak with my daughter. Yes I remember in Elijah’s day him saying how long will you be limping on two different opinions? You certainly understand how hard after decades of being active within the org.how hard it is to let fully go.And particularly that my children come back from their visit to mommy & always a situation involving jw’s. & how my son relates how the jw boys call him names.Or my little girl actually telling me that she asks other little girls if it makes sense what they’re learning from the meetings, & they tell her NO, but they like the cartoons on the web site. I smile at her cause she is a little me, questioning things. I teach her to be subtle & careful.That these little girls will turn on her when she doesn’t join in on the giving talks…my daughter always corrects me & says”Daddy, woman are NOT ALLOWED to give talks, we give presentations & demonstrations.” LOL funny how she’s been inculcated that thought at the meetings by the elders. She tells me she lets her mind wander there, until mommy trys to force her to comment.She asks her why don’t you comment mommy? Well…i will probably get my daugher back this Tuesday cause of Monday’s holiday.Not quite sure. My x is a last minute, unable to be tamed to a schedule type of gal. So all of a sudden daughter comes home, good thing i’m there to let her in. What I will do is stay silent.Yes you are totally correct. All they did was mock my family life, poke fun, taunt, jab, laugh, be sarcastic, ill mannered, bully, threaten, punch, divulge confidential matters,steal & everything else under the sun.
My x would have to be demon possessed to take me to court to get a court order to take them to meetings. Unless these friends at the kingdom hall egg her on, “do it, do it!” One can never know the crazy advice that is given a the hall or in service. If for some odd reason she duz, then the judge will find out how a brother from the kingdom hall wanted to have sex with my little girl, & how the elders would punch me in the spine, laughing & mocking me, while i couldn’t go to work due to pain. How they stole a very expensive piece of equipment that I needed to make money from. All the dirty laundry will be aired. Or another scenario, i could get calls from an elder in my old hall which after the last conversation with him,i think he will worry about calling me, unless a CO tells him, but he will probably decline. I think I’ll just be threatened by my ex somehow, but she knows not to send it via text, & I forbid her to call me unless it’s a matter on our PSA document in court, having to try & sell joint property. I’m on the do not call list by threat of a civil lawsuit with the local cong. Prob is I was trained by one elder when a situation arises talk to the elders give them a heads up. Head your enemy off at the pass.But that will stop now. Rewiring my brain. My son is happy now. Seems to have snapped out of it. Said he’s very happy to be with me. I just gave him a late Christmas card a couple days before his mothers last visit. I was telling him how precious he is to me, how he brought tears to my eyes when i first layed my eyes on him, how much that i love him. Then off to his mother who disowned her flesh & blood, then he recalls my love & see’s that he has a home, & a father who treasures him. My card was perfect timing. It buffered him from the attack of his mother & the friends in the kingdom hall egging her on to kick him out in single digit temperatures. I do have a holistic therapist to be used in dire situations. However i see that this situation of my son is shaping him to leave jw’s for good! So I will leave it in place. No signs of wanting to hurt himself.I’ll see how his scores are in school. I provide training to him letting him know to tell me anything, even bad, & i will run to that therapist & it will be fixed, we wouldn’t even have to tell mommy. Whatever it is, I will help him thru it.So he seems fine for now, but I will monitor him definitely as you advise. My daughter is a tough little creature who doesn’t believe in therapy. So I have to use different techniques. Hold her close. Tell her i love her.She can tell me anything,give a couple kisses,she crys, then in about 40 minutes we discuss it & situation corrected. But I cannot wait to see her. My son says he would like not to see mommy for 3 years. We discussed the importance of forgiving her, understanding why she did what she did manipulated by her friends in the congregation, & to accept this is what the organization has been doing. That my own father disowned me because of the religion.That their jw grandpa disowned him last year also. This is a pattern among the members. I’ll let you know if there’s anything else that happens.
Dundee good morning, things should be better after a good nights sleep. I forgot you have a therapist. I am a Holistic Alternative Therapist so she will look at the entire picture including stress exhibited in physical pain. Let’s do an exercise:
Fill a glass with water hold it straight out in your hand and imagine or guess how much it weighs. Is it 5, 10, 16 ounces? Hold it for 5 min and you might say 5oz. hold for 10min you might say 16oz. Hold it for an hour and it will seem heavier, hold it for a week in that position and it is having an effect on you although it is the same weigh as when you began the first 5 min.
THE WEIGH DOESN’T MATTER, IT IS HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO HOLD OR CARRY IT AROUND. It tho not heavy will start to do irreparable damage after a while.
That is how it plays out when we engage in the mind games of the elders in the congregations of J-witnesses. Carrying them around in your life too long will weigh you down and do damage to you and your children.
Many don’t recover from their harsh tactics and blame God when it is just a bunch of men being told by an organization that they have power over the lives of people. If any on here are truthful, they know how this plays out all over the world with the witnesses, because they are an organization and learn and are taught from the same books. The Bible has no imput in their training at all.
This global cohesiveness is how they are able to be defeated, however. Since they all behave as drones we can work up a defense that helps everyone suffering under the pressure of this organization.
The most effective step is to WALK AWAY FROM THEM AND HAVE NO CONTACT PERIOD WITH THE ELDERS!. THEY ARE DEFEATED WITH THIS ONE STEP AS THEY HAVE NO POWER OUTSIDE THE DOORS OF THE KINGDOM HALLS. If a witness relative try to talk to you about coming back stop them immediately at the first 5 words, say let’s not discuss religion please. This what they do to you when you have left. It cuts both ways. Witnesses are accustomed to shunning and saying what they teach without hinderance but the knife cuts both ways, turn it back on them.
This is not vindictive but a coping and safety mechanism for your brain that has been under their control for decades. To stop a bad habit like smoking, drug and drinking you have to stop touching it and remove your self from the company of those with the habit to be successful. The witnesses are like a bad addictive habit. It will take time to break free, heal and replace the bad habits practiced for years.
You are taking in my opinion a safe step by getting to know the truth about God with God fearing people. I aledge that the governing body and the witness elders have no fear of God, by how they treat his people.
Take your children to the park, an activity center or something so they can physically get this off their chest. Go for a long walk in a nature preserve and show them God at work. The Museums, anywhere where you can talk and show them that there is life after the witnesses. Take Care and God Bless
I am having a difficult time with re-living this one event that lately has surfaced in my memories. While at a Kingdom Hall that I was apart of some years ago, one of the elders I was speaking with, did something to me that i just froze in disbelief!! We were talking about some topic then he alluded to the fact he had a past.It sounded like he was talking about prison. He started touching & carressing my face, where my beard would be & said how I’m pretty & how men in prison would love me. I was soooo grossed out by his physical contact. He was married. I at the time wasn’t aware that someone who is married can have feelings for the same sex.I was nieve. Later he was able to get even with me judicially, & I’m still trying to sort thru that. Thank fully I’m in good standing with Jehovah & continuing to improve my life. But he really spooks me. When I used to serve on judicial committee’s he would tell the sinner that he is Jehovah & that she is undeserving of Jehovah’s mercy. He still is an elder today in that hall & attacking people verbally thru local needs parts, going above and beyond what is necessary to say.Now i hear the local needs part will be replaced. I hope he isn’t touching any other men in the hall. He knew i am straight.But what if one there is unsure, yikes! This really disturbs my i didn’t punch him out right there on the spot, but I am a peacemaker, always trying to give my brother the benefit of the doubt.
Dundee, I. Will.tell you of some experiences when I leave convention.
And may Jehovah god bless you too arimatthewdavies!
Hello everyone this is now my 24th year as a christian believer it’s been one heck of a journey from crack addiction to a person that looks to god and jesus for strenth instead of running from responsible things
I welcome them! The plans god has for me gave to me hope and a future and each day is one more step away from the devils way sand a step closer to the day I get to live under jesus kingship! I greet you all and hope every one is well! May Jehovah continue to Bless you!
I also have battled off and on with drugs and alcohol.
I was introduced to the org. When I was in prison for the first time.
Struggled with addiction as a JW. Wanted to do the right things and walk the
JW line, but never could do it 100%
Fear is a poor motivator! However now I feel moved
Out of love and hope to please God.
It’s not about getting called into the back room
And drilled by window cleaners and janitors
About addiction issues.
Anyway sorry for rambling on, just wanted you to
Know that I can relate
Chris