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A systematic approach to examining Two Salvations & Restitution

Eph 1:9,10 – “restoring the whole creation” – Weymouth

Acts 3:21 – “times of restoration of all things… spoken by … all His holy prophets” NKJV

Salvation Can Only Come Through Christ

John 14:6 – “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

Jn 10:9 – “I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved”

Eph 2:18 – “through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.”

Acts 4:12 – “there is no other name… among men by which we must be saved.”

Rom 5:1-2 – “having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus”

John 3:36 – “He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”  NKJV

God Wants to Save ALL People

2 Peter 3:9 – “The Lord is … longsuffering …not wishing that any should perish”  ASV

1 Tim 2:4 – God “desires ALL men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

John 3:17 – God sent his Son to save, not condemn, the world.

(see also Isa 14:24; Isa 45:22-23; Jonah 3:10)

God will Bless ALL People

Acts 2:18 – “on My menservants and… maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days” NKJV

Acts 2:17 – “in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on ALL flesh” NKJV

Gen.22:18 – “In your seed ALL the nations of the earth shall be blessed ”  NKJV

Luke 2:10 – “the angel said…I bring you good tidings of great joy… to ALL people.”   NKJV

Heb 2:9 – “But we see Jesus … that He … might taste death for EVERYONE.”  NKJV

John 12:32 – “And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL peoples to Myself.”   NKJV

John 1:29 – “John …said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! NKJV

John 6:51 – “the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”  NKJV

Isa 40:5 – “The glory of the LORD shall be revealed, And ALL flesh shall see it together ”  NKJV

Hag 2:7 – “And I will shake all nations, and the desire of ALL nations shall come”  KJV

Two Distinct Classes Saved – Church and World

1 John 2:2 – “He is an atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. – Weymouth

1 Tim 4:10 – God…is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.   NKJV

Rev 22:17 – “the bride say, “Come!”… Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.   NKJV

[An invitation to unbelieving mankind on Paradise Earth.]

Rom 8:19,21 – “the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God… also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God  NKJV

1 Peter 2:12 – “Gentiles… they may, by your good works… glorify God in the day of visitation.”  NKJV

2 Thess 1:10 – He comes to be glorified in His saints & admired among all those who believe   NKJV

2 Cor 5:19 – God reconciling the world to Himself & committed to us the word of reconciliation. NKJV

Acts 15:16-17 – I will rebuild tabernacle of David, So that the rest of mankind may seek LORD,  NKJV

Rom 11:30 – through mercy shown you [Gentile Christians], they [Jews] also may obtain mercy  NKJV

Future Mission of the Church to Save the World


1 Peter 1:9 – “receiving the end of your faith — the salvation of your souls.”   NKJV

Obad 21 – “Then saviors shall come to Mount Zion” [Rev 14:1-5 firstborn who follow Lamb.]

1 Cor 15:29 – Otherwise, what will they do who are baptized for the dead, if the dead do not rise at all? Why then are they baptized for the dead?  NKJV


Acts 3:25 –  ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’   NKJV

Gal 3:29 – And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.


2 Tim 2:12 – If we endure, We shall also reign with Him. NKJV

Rev 20:6 – first resurrection…they shall be priests of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Rev 1:6 – “has made us kings and priests to His God and Father”  NKJV


1 Cor 6:2 – “Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?”  NKJV

Matt 19:28 – “in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.   NKJV

Dan 7:27 – “the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints”  NIV

Redemption of Mankind still Future

1 Tim 2:6 – “who gave Himself a ransom for ALL, to be testified in due time,”   NKJV

Zeph 3:8-9 –I will restore to the peoples a pure language, That they ALL may call on the the LORD,

Blindness Will Be Removed

2 Cor 4:3 – “gospel is veiled…to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded”   Rom 10:14-17 – … how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? … So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.   NKJV

Matt 13:10-11 – Jesus spoke in parables because it is not for the world to understand mysteries of Bible.

Isa 25:6-8 – LORD will remove the veil that is spread over ALL nations.  He will swallow up death

Isa 60:1-3, 10-12 – Darkness covers the earth, but the world will come to Jerusalem to worship

Time of Teaching & Learning

Isa 29:18, 24 – Deaf will hear, blind will see.  Those who erred will understand.

Isa 26:9 – “when Your judgments are in the earth, The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.”

Isa 11:9-10 – “the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, As the waters cover the sea.”

Mic 4:1-2 – “Many nations shall say, “Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, To the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, And we shall walk in His paths.”

Isa 35:8 – “The way of holiness… shall be for (the redeemed)…fools, shall not err (therein).”  ASV

ALL People will Worship & Serve God

Phil 2:9-11 – EVERY knee should bow…and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,

Rev 15:4 – all nations shall come and worship before You..”   NKJV

Dan 7:14, 27 – “ALL peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him”  His kingdom is everlasting

Isa 66:23 – all flesh come to worship before me, saith Jehovah.  ASV

Ps 22:27 – “ all the families of the nations Shall worship before You.”   NKJV

Ps 138:4 – “All the kings of the earth shall praise You, O LORD “   NKJV

Ps 72:8,11,17 – “all kings shall fall down before Him; All nations shall serve Him”  NKJV

Rev 11:15 – “kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord… He shall reign forever”

Rev 21:23-24 – “the nations shall walk amidst the light thereof: and the kings … bring their glory into it.”  Mal 1:11 “My name shall be great among the Gentiles; In every place incense shall be offered to” God

(see also Ps 86:9; Ps 65:1-2; Zech 2:11; Zech 9:10)

Rev 5:13 – “And every creature … heard I saying, Blessing, and honor…to… the Lamb for ever” AKJV

Everyone will be Resurrected

Acts 24:15-16 – “there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and the unjust.”   NKJV

John 5:28-29 – “the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will … come forth”  NKJV

Rom 5:18 “through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life”   1 Cor 15:22 – “as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.” NKJV

Resurrection and Judgment Not at End of Millennium

Rev 20:4-6 –  “The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed.”

The manuscript evidence on whether this phrase is authentic is mixed.  About half of the 4th-13th century manuscripts omit it.

2 Tim 4:1-”Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom” NKJV

[Rev 20:1 shows Christ returns at the beginning of the 1,000 years, at which time he begins to bind Satan.]

Act 3:21-4:2 – “whom heaven must receive until {the} period of restoration… all families of earth blessed…resurrection”

Mankind Judged by Their Future Behavior in God’s Kingdom

Rev 20:12 – “the dead were judged according to their works, by the things written in the books.”

[Compare – Matt 8:21-22 – “let the dead bury their own dead.”  NKJV]

John 12:47-48 – “I did not come to judge the world but to save the world… the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.”  NKJV

Matt 12:32 – whoever speaks against Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, in this age or in the age to come.

Rev 22:14 – Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are immoral, murderers, idolaters and liers.

Isa 26:9 – “when Your judgments are in the earth, The inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.“

Ps 96:10-13 – “The LORD reigns…He shall judge the peoples righteously… let the earth be glad”

Ps 67 – “let the nations be glad and sing for joy!  For You shall judge the people righteously”

Ps 9:8 – “He shall judge the world in righteousness, And He shall administer judgment for the peoples”

Even the Wicked get an Opportunity to Repent in the Kingdom

Matt 11:20-24 – it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you… if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day

Luke 11:32 – The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it. NKJV

Ezek 16:55, 61,62 – Sodom and her daughters, return to their former state  NKJV

Isa 60:14 –all those who despised you will bow themselves at the souls of your feet; And they will call you the city of the LORD.  The Zion of the Holy One of Israel. – NASV

Rev 3:9 – I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan…to come and bow down at your feet”


  • It appears Revelation 21 has Kingdom purposes for “coming down from heaven” to earth for humans. The one hope is immortality, the realm is heavenly or earthly.

    (Matthew 6:9-10) Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.

    (Matthew 6:9-10) Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven (immortality; Rev2:7), also upon earth (immortality; Rev22:14).

    • Peter K. (admin)

      2034 – Thanks. Do you believe angels and those remaining on earth after the Rev 20 thousand years and little season have immortality (as opposed to everlasting life)?

      In regards to Angel’s consider…
      1 Tim 6 (ESV) “14 to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.”

  • Marc Taylor

    Some introductory thoughts.
    1. God wants to save only His elect – the rest not so (Romans 9:18).
    2. God will bless all people who are His elect – but even the unsaved are blessed in some regards (Matthew 5:45).
    3. Heaven is the immediate abode for the saved upon death. In the future they will be part of the new earth.
    4. There is no second chances to be saved. This life is it.
    5. Those who die who are not Christians are eternally lost and are sent (in a conscious state) in Hades and then they are sent to the Lake of Fire.

    • Chris Johns

      All incorrect. But you believe what you want.

    • Peter K. (admin)

      Marc – If you are not seriously going to consider the scriptures at the link than it is becoming clear this was never really a two way conversation. Your views are fixed and no amount of scriptures will change your mind.

      • Marc Taylor


        I could easily say the exact same thing to you about the Scriptures I have cited in the past and could just as easily cite now so your argument is meaningless.

    • Sky

      “”God wants to save only His elect – the rest not so (Romans 9:18)””

      There is your first problem. With that attitude you become “first in line” for the “fire prepared for the Devil”, because that is what he also teaches when “at church”.

      The church morph of Christ’s teachings, teach all that error, so they can milk your ATMs your whole life based on the fear and guilt which actually drives these ideas with a healthy does of self-righteous adrenaline.

      This and other reasons is why corporate Christendom will be deposed by World Government. (Rev17:13-17) It is of no use to the Kingdom of Christ come Revelation 14 time under “8th King” world government in the future. It has been a total error for quite some time. (2Thess2:11-12)

      • Marc Taylor

        You did a great job rambling on but totally ignored Romans 9:18.

        • Christopher Johns

          Another self righteous comment. It makes me think when a Christian calls someone a name and then uses the scripture of jesus calling the pharisees vipers as a justification.

          • Rena Luecking aka Just Stay Sweet and Good

            I agree Chris. the general attitude is not spiritual but combative these days. When people are attacked their “fight or flight” response kicks in. Our Creator put that there for a purpose so we could be alterted to trouble. I just now realized this was the whole reason for the emergency session that is chronicaled in Acts, was because if was former Pharasies that had become Christians that were pushing the circumcision. Their heart had not been circumscied yet. This is what we are all dealing with today, is the lack of submission to Jehovah Gods standards for those who will rule and reign with his son.

            • Peter K. (admin)

              Thanks Rena. – It is our hope that with open and honest discussion (without fear) that we can reason together in love with each other to arrive at Biblical truth with a willing and uncoerced obedience to the Bible.

      • Peter K. (admin)

        Sky – Thanks for commenting. “God desires all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth.” 1 Tim 2:4.

        Thankfully God’s generous plan for salvation is better than you can even imagine.

        Two Distinct Classes Saved – Church and World

        1 John 2:2 – “He is an atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. – Weymouth

        1 Tim 4:10 – God…is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. NKJV

        Rev 22:17 – “the bride say, “Come!”… Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. NKJV

        [An invitation to unbelieving mankind on Paradise Earth.]

        Rom 8:19,21 – “the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God… also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God NKJV

        1 Peter 2:12 – “Gentiles… they may, by your good works… glorify God in the day of visitation.” NKJV

    • Peter K. (admin)

      Marc – I am going to assume you actually believe this scenario where over 99% of mankind goes to hell.

      I have two questions for you from Revelation 20.

      Revelation 20:1-5 (ESV) partial quote
      “Then I saw angel… he seized… Satan, and bound him… so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended… I saw the souls of… those who had not worshiped the beast… They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.”

      1) Who are God’s people reigning over on earth during the 1,000 years and for what purpose?

      2) Why does God prevent Satan from deceiving the nations during the 1,000 years.

  • Noel Bordoy

    The verses mentioned in “Salvation can only come through Christ”, seems to indicate that only those who exercise faith in Christ will be saved. But Acts 24:15 says there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and unrighteous. How do we reconcile these passages? Thanks

    • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

      Noel first put the scriptures in the correct Age or time period.
      Now at the end of the 1,000 year will all persons have to believe in Christ to be saved? Yes. Will the righteous and the unjust also have been raised? Yes. Most of the scriptures witness say happen at armageddon or before, actually fulfill in the age to come. Witness rush God where he moves at his time table.

  • Cazenovi (Bible Student)

    Br. Peter K. –
    I thoroughly believe the bible teaches that Christ’s Ransom is indeed for ALL.

    The only struggle I have is this: Does the bible teach two different hopes or just Sonship. It seems that different individual BSs have different thoughts on this. If the scriptures teach only Sonship, then is there really a calling and choosing, which imply all are Sons of God by default? And after the judgment of 1000 yrs I’ve heard some say the people on earth will have then proved themselves spiritually perfect (yes) and but then be brought to heaven. What of the earth itself? I am just looking for your thoughts based on evidence of scripture.

    • Peter K. (admin)


      Since Pentecost, millions may have been chosen by Jehovah as holy spirit annointed New Creatures. However, only the faithful little flock will be accepted as the bride of Christ.

      There is only one heavenly hope of our calling, however merciful Jehovah will still save those not faithful enough to be part of the glorified body of Christ.

      I think this link will help. https://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/2011/05/01/what-happens-to-anointed-who-do-not-make-the-144000/

      There are two phases of the Kingdom, both heavenly and earthly. Both phases will endure forever. Many scriptures in this post teach about the earthly kingdom at this link. Thsee show the earthly kingdom will be forever.

      Dan.2.44.nasb “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.”

      Dan.7.14.nasb “And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed.”

      So it seems there will be people on earth forever.

      I have heard some suggest that the Faithful Old Testament people of Hebrews 11 would recieve a heavenly reward after the 1,000 years. I think that the evidence is a bit technical and subjective. I am not convinced either way. I worry that such an outcome seems to contradict the promise to Abraham that he would inherit that Land of Israel forever.

      • Cazenovi (Bible Student)

        Br. Peter –
        Thank you. It is a ‘little flock’ compared to the billions on earth, symbolized by the number 144k depicting emphasized totality and thorough heavenly establishment. Am I right? All that you have said is what I believe. I just want to make sure that I had the understanding clear. I have come to understand these things through Jahs spirit on my own accord and is a relief to hear/see it that what I have derived is in fact accurate in contrast to the WT doctrines.

        • Peter K. (admin)

          Cazenovi – You may be correct on that. I favor the view that the number 144,000 is a literal count. Although Revelation is a symbolic book, the numbers appear to be literal. For example, the Seals, Trumpets and Churches may be symbolic, however the fact that there are 7 of each is literal. For 1260 days, I think the “days” are symbolic for “years.” However, the the number 1260 itself is taken literally. The classic example of literal numbers is in the 70 weeks prophecy of Daniel 9.

          Some find it impossible that the number in the bride of Christ could be so few as 144,000. Considering the Christ-like character that must be developed in order to qualify before Jehovah to be Jesus’ body members, sharing in the work of being earths future judges, priests and kings, I am amazed that there are so many! It gives me hope that I might have a chance. For me, such a large number as 144,000 testifies to the power and influence of the Holy spirit.

          Your humble honesty, searching heart and insight are evidence to me of the influence of God’s holy spirit helping you.

          • Cazenovi (Bible Student)

            I can appreciate your view brother. I have been taught that the number is indeed literal, and I understand and believe through study of scripture and Russel’s teachings that millions have been (and will continue to be) invited but not all invited are subsequently CHOSEN. That is why we are admonished to ‘make the calling of ourselves sure’, in the sense of consecration and not mere integrity keeping.

            Nonetheless, my personal uncertainty warrants more study on my own behalf then discussion on the subject.

            To gain the lenses of divine wisdom and spiritual perception of the Christ for subsequent study of the bible along with petition of holy spirit, I am currently examining the inspired writings and songs of Solomon, I will then skip onto Revelation, then a chronological study of the scriptures.

          • Cazenovi (Bible Student)

            I pray that you do as well as that all my contemporaries stay true to the Way, Truth and Light of our Lord Christ Jesus.

            Although invited, I feel I have a lot to live up to here presently. Your humility is endearing. Your simple expression of hope both reflects your own humility and too reminds me that my choosing is not guaranteed until my faithful life course, the work of my personal consecration and ordained will of Jah is complete. I pray I have a full life that merits such an ethereal reward! I appreciate your candor my brother, it is very encouraging.

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