This 45 minute video takes you through testimonials and music from the Early Bible Students of Pastor Russell’s day. Video Clips from the Photodrama of Creation are included. The people you see testifying are among the 75% of Bible Students who left the Watchtower because they would not follow J.F. Rutherford in his takeover of the Society and whom he labeled “Evil Slaves.” What do you think? Do you think these Bible Students are actually Evil Slaves? Or do you think they are spirit filled Christians? Just what do you think about these Bible Students? Let us know your opinion. You can of course comment anonymously. (Many of the testimonies are at the end of the video.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCjS9B4QVtM
We are a new group of JWs who study the Bible independently and higly appreciate Br. Russell’s views. We found a lot of nice stuff here
We are still in the organization but we study the old literature and whatever from the Watchtower agrees with the Bible. We were directed here by a friend
JWCovenantFellowship – Thank you for visiting our website. Feel free to begin a conversation. We love to discuss scriptures here.
Hello friends, I’m so excited to here, I was directed here by jw.fact. although I’m yet to fully comprehend what I am reading about the Jehovah’s organization which I belong, I am beginning to see some facts from the jw.fact as well as your website. as one of Jehovah’s witnesses presently, there are times we introduce ourselves in our house to house witnessing as Bible students, I never knew that there is a group other Jehovah’s witnesses known as Bible students. Well, as may know, we have severally been warned not to listen to apostate reasoning or read their books. But for the few days I dare visit jw.fact, I begin to see things differently. I pray I have the courage to continue in this search for the truth. It may not be easy for me.
Hi Alex. Glad you are visiting the site. Feel free to continue to share your thoughts or ask questions or even tell us about your experiences. No judgement here, just friendly conversation and a desire to understand Jehovah’s will and plan for us and the world.
What do you think of 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17?
JW Fellowship Covenant – Good question.
1 Thess 4:15-17 (NKJV) “15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.”
I think Jesus will return in the same MANNER as he went (Acts 1:9-11), quietly and only seen by his followers. If by “same manner,” Jesus meant his physical appearance, then taking other scriptures literally create contradictions. For example, in 1 Thes 4:16 he descends from heaven with a trumpet, in 2 Thes 2 he descends in flaming fire, in Rev 14, he comes on a cloud with a crown on his head and sickle in his hand and in Rev 19, he comes on a white horse with a sword coming out of his mouth. I personally harmonize all of these four apparent contradictions by interpreting them symbolically, not literally.
Verse 15 indicates that the living will NOT precede the dead. Why is this? I suggest that a deeper study shows much evidence from scripture that there is a period of time after Jesus returns, that his people are alive and remain, raised some unspecified period of time later. We can discuss those scriptures if you like. Perhaps you are well aware of some of these.
The sleeping saints are raised first AFTER that, we who are alive and remain. The word commonly mistranslated “then” means afterwards (Strongs 1899). It is not “together” (Strong’s 260) at the same time, but “together” to the same place. Strongs allows, “denoting close association” and the context verifies this, because we find Paul using Strongs 260 again just a few verses later the word means same place, not same time – 1Th 5:10 “Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.” If it meant same time, then living would not be raised “after.”
Notice in verse 17, they meet the Lord in the air. We find this same word air in Eph 2:2 “in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air <109>, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,” I think that the air is referring to the spiritual rulership of the world, controlled by Satan who is attempting to fight off the returned Christ.
Much more can be said. I would be gland to hear your thoughts on these verses.
ALEX, you said you presented yourself as Bible Student …. Please try now to study the Bible, and see what you will find ….
https://thelatterdayschronology.blogspot.com/2021/01/teaching-of-christ-jehovah-yhwh-is-god.html
Hi Seeker – Please tell us your own thoughts and provide scriptures to support. Thanks.
Hello, are there any alternative ways of viewing this video? I’m very interested in seeing it, but Flash player doesn’t work any more.
Nathaniel – The link is up on YouTube. You can get it from the site or here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCjS9B4QVtM
I am interested in where you get this figure: 75% of Bible Students who left the Watchtower because they would not follow J.F. Rutherford
Someone mentioned that this was in the WT literature somewhere and I sure would like to find it.
Thank you in advance.
Terry – You can find the answer at this link.
https://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/2012/09/08/75-of-the-original-bible-students-left-the-watchtower-by-1931/
In my humble opinion…I was a JW for the first 49 years of my life. With recent history& the child abuse problem being exposed in the news, I would say that the splinter group of JW’s are the evil slave. They have weaponized our families against us.
Kim – I am sorry for all you have suffered in the JW organization. Weaponizing families against each other is an evil thing to do. When one is secure in their faith and their relationship with Jehovah, they have the “peace of mind that passes understanding” and there is no need to persecute others in conformity with an organization. The Christian relationship should not be with an organization, but rather a personal relationship with Jehovah and his Son Jesus. Organization force conformity, whereas the Holy Spirit creates unity in the Truth organically, without force, but rather through personal honest study of the scriptures. Actually the JW Organization is a splinter group of the Bible Students Association of Brother Russell’s day.
Can anyone leave a comment on this site. I would just like to comment on how we found your site. I/we were JW’s for nearly 60 years. (left 3years ago) We (hubby)came across your site quite accidentally. We have a hobby of reading through court transcripts and was reading Russles divorce proceedings and came across Russles “other” corporations. I had to go to work so I asked hubby to look up what “other” corporations he had. Up piped your web site!!!! Well you can just imagine what he said. His jaw was still open when I got back from work. lol
Margi,
Thank you for writing. Of course anyone may post here. All believers in the Ransom are welcome as well as anyone seeking. Wow that’s a long time of being a JW. We are definitely friends of JWs. We are also known as Bible Students. We study the works of CT Russell with the Bible. We study the Studies in the Scriptures and the early Watchtowers from 1879-1916. We are not an organization with any governing body. We are an independent association of brothers worldwide. May I ask what brought you to our site?
Christopher Johns
Hello Margi,I to was a witness for over fourty Years & found the Bible students in Australia where I live.I was re-baptised as a bible student in 2013 & have never been so Happy,as I now have found the truth that sets us free,& my wife and I travell to as many of our conventions in Australia as well as the USA,UK & Poland as whe are able.Would love to hear also if you are searching for the truth that sets us free,Bro Richard,Bible Student Australia.
It is so so unloving to call the early bible students evil slaves.
It shows you what kind of man J. F. Rutherford was.
He seemed to be a power hungry man. I’m quite familiar
with Russel and the bible students.
Greetings Manna.
I find it so wonderful to read your expressions. Thank you. I concur with your sentiments completely.
Would you care to tell us a little more about yourself, or maybe how you found this website?
Compassionately,
-greg