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  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Thank you for your time.

    Will leave you with a thing that is definitely the case.
    Which is the meaning of fact.
    1. Of all the groups that broke from watch tower, during ctr and after ctr, which most vanished, the few left have no great crowd. It is a fact.
    Anyone, try a google search, bible students great crowd.

    • Chris Johns

      Dave,
      And those who stayed fell into apostasy. Like those who followed the Catholic Church. The true church always existed outside even during the apostasy. Look at the jw history video they made. martin luther left the catholic church. Like the Bible students left the Apostate WTS. Saying they you can only bain patadise by being a part of their Organization is not trith. Its bondage to a system Russell told us to beware of organization. And he was right. Now your just a high control group like Christendom. We are a little flock. None other are called.

      Look it up

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      The great crowd are anointed that didn’t make it. If no man can number the great crowd then your organization is wrong in showing how many there. Jesus never had a two class salvation system, Purely an invention of Rutherford. And we don’t need a great crowd with the Bible Student’s. Because it’s not a class that anybody’s been called to. Why do you think Jesus always talked about the heavens because he never promised earth his followers.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    Acts chapter 4 shows great increase to about 5,000. Let’s say each year 365 days each anointed one preaches and teaches one new disciple. By the end of 40 C.E. there would be 640,000 anointed ones. Made up of Gentiles and Israelis. John wrote his gospel around 98 C E. At a very old age, already the apostasy was huge. And when John died it took off. Interesting that at late date Jehovah inspired John to write that. There was no need to let gentiles no, they had been Chritians for 52 years. They were all anointed. And all in the community. Yet under inspiration Jesus had said, I have other sheep not of this community . The same John who wrote Revelation 2 years earlier did not have a clue who that great crowd was. He was taken to the Lord’s day, but was clueless as to who they were. Just like John the Baptist who died not to long after Jesus started his ministry. He was dead when Jesus said, not a man greater than John had there been, but he will be a lesser to one who is in the kingdom. Yes when each anointed fulfills there earthly coarse and are raised to heaven. So like that John Brother Russell lived before the revealing of the other sheep of this fold and a accurate info on the great crowd.

    And again, who has a great crowd in the same community? Which anointed group? The Dawn? The Australian branch from Hennesey and Ball, cars secretary who broke away.
    The Chicago group? Or Oregon group? Texas group? Or JWs group who has a great crowd with gret trib ready to happen?

    The facts are as simple as can be.

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      This shows that you you dont know what you are talking about. The Chicago group and Australian group are like saying “South Atlanta Congregation of Jw” and “North Congregation of JWs”. We are all Bible Students. Orlando Bible Students and Chicago Bible Students are the same. The orlando and chicago are just location designations. We dont need a authoritarian governing body that moochers off the people donations t ok to control is. Watch YouTube. Anthony Morris is buying hundreds of dollars worth of Liquor off your donations. So sad. The Truth isnt for everyone. Show me one non-spirit begotten christian in the bible with an earthly hope. Jesus never offered two separate salvation for Christian’s. So again you’re preaching a different gospel. 😁

    • Christopher Johns

      John the Baptist died before spirit begetal. Jesus never offered two setsbif salvation. The ancient worthies will live on the earth. After spirit begettal there is no more earthly hope for Christians. All of jesus teachings were about reigning with him in heaven. Not hard. You’re just not spirit begotten to understand them.

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      This is where I end. If you want to Live on the Earth and that’s fine. But just now Jesus never taught anyone to hope for an earthly paradise while being a Christian. Some gonna let you get the last word because that’s exactly what you want I’ve talked to you online you’ve done this before period so I’m just gonna leave it here have a good day

  • Dave

    Anonymous

    Sodom had many people who died, probaly had very bad lives. It will be better for them on resurrection day compared to those cities mentioned. The 5 cities who recieved many about 95 to96 percent pure sulfur wont get a ressurection. All over the earth when sulfur is found, it’s about 45 percent. These nuggets are laying all around the 5 cities. And what is interesting is there are no nuggets laying between cities. Meaning it was a direct hit from heaven. If any of you doubt it go there a see it.

  • Dave

    To Liz.

    Like all anointed ones, Brother Rutherford was immperfect. You asked about his good. He got the studies and read them and came in the truth. He worked well for Brother Russell and after Brother Russell was gone 10-31-2016 he was thrown in prison and it looked like the watch tower was dead. But when he and 7 others were released they were blessed with Jehovah’s spirit and Son Jesus Christ as the work took off and continues to this day. True John chapter 6 had a much larger fulfillment as those ,Matthew 24:48,49, did there thing and left the watch tower and started about 20 groups most of which died out. A few remain but have no great crowd, showing Jehovah’s spirit and His Son Jesus ate not with them. It’s possible we can get a few to come back as it happened back in Rutherfords day,some came back.
    Hope this answers your question from 2016

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      His spirit is with us. That’s why he spirit begat us and we see through the control tactics he used. 75% of the bible students left the society in the 1920’s. They saw that what happened when the catholic church took over and we see the same patterns in the WT society. Basically “obey or be lost”. As the church Went into an apostasy after the death of the apostle’s we can see the same thing after the death of Russell. Rutherford took control over the entire society and made them obey him or than they would die in Armageddon. That’s not Christianity that’s bad news. The WTS is going down. Losing money on child pedophiles cases. You can try to make it seem biblical but it’s not

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Dictionary on the word fold.(fold something in or into) mix one ingredient gently with another
    Also, a group or community.

    Listen to Jesus words, I have other sheep that don’t belong to this sheep pen.I must lead them too. They will listen to my voice and there will be one flock, with one shepherd. JOHN 10:16

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      Incorrect nowhere does this say they are an earthly class. John 10:16 are gentiles that will br brought in. And those in the millennium. For the bible says all things will he gathered to God. Again where does jesus offer a two hope system? JWs teach error in saying Jesus offered heavenly and earthly promises to his father. And I know you’ll go to Matthew 5:5 next. Rutherford taught a two class system. That’s why it didnt come about until 1935. Show me a scripture where people are commanded to pass the memorial emblems by? Hmmmm can’t can you.

    • Christopher Johns

      John 10:16 are gentiles that he would go to to make them part of the little flock. That’s why the message of galatians is about the two (gentiles and jews) becoming one. That’s simple. Stop listening to the false doctrines of the JWs.

  • Dave

    See that you do not refuse to listen to the one who is speaking. For if those who refused to listen to the one giving divine warning on earth did not escape, how much more will we not escape if we turn away from him who speaks from the heavens .
    To all anointed ones and non anointed come back, read the prodigal son that Jehovah’s word shows.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    Psalms 150:1 Praise Jah! Praise God in his holy place. Rev. 19:1

    150:2 Praise him for his mighty works. Rev. 15:3

    Psalm 150:6 Every breathing thing-let it praise Jah! Praise Jah!*
    Rev.5:13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the blessing and honor and the glory and the might forever and ever.

    It starts, and I heard. 19:1 starts,After this I heard.
    Back to 5:13 every creature in heaven and on earth. 19:1 what seemed to be a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven.

    Criss, dictionary on creature, a living being in particular a animal rather than a person.

    But I tell you this, brothers that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom.
    1 Cor.15:50

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      Again show me where jesus offered two Hope’s for Christians. You cant. Becasue he didnt. So when you go door to door you’re preaching another gospel. Can you show me a tow hope system? You’re just quoting random scriptures. 😆

  • Christopher Johns

    Dave,
    Psalms was not written for the Christian’s hope. Jesus opened a new and living way again where did jesus offer an earthly hope hope his followers. Bringing me to old testament scriptures like psalms and Isaiah isnr sufficient.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Psalms 45. Do we agree Jesus is the king?

    Do we agree verse 10 is spiritual Israel, the 144,000?

    Do we agree verse 12 and end of 14 are the great crowd?

    Do we agree verse 16 has old faithful ones being appointed as princes in all the earth?

    How can great crowd be linked to Tyre?
    How can these 16 call then Jesus sons?
    Because I know you agree on Jesus the king and 10 the daughter represents the 144,000.

    So why would Jehovah use Tyre for one of the daughters? Friendly relations existed at times between Trre and Israel, notably during the reigns of David and Solomon. Skilled Trrian workmen engaged in building David’s royal palace with cedar timber sent by Hiram the king of Tyre. The Tyrians also supplied David with cedar later used in the temples construction.
    After David’s death King Hiram of Tyre furnished Solomon with materials and assistance for the construction of the temple and other government buildings.

    1 Cor. 3:16 The anointed as a group are referred to as making up the temple of God . It reads, you yourselves are God’s temple. Also read 1Peter 2:5; Epe. 2:21; and 2 Cor. 6:16

    It is a known fact, that the daughter of Tyre brought much wealth to the anointed in charge of Jesus belongings.
    The proof is negative comments about money given are splashed around often by your group.
    Likewise Tyre helped in building the greatest building ever the temple. The great crowd assisted the remaining members of the temple class to preach the good news of the kingdom.

    As to the ones from past made princes and referred to sons of Jesus. All human kind that are in Revelation 21:3-5 have Jesus as their Eternal Father because everyone of them on earth alive are alive because of the ransom. The word father means to give life, life giver.

    Hope you get to enjoy.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Gen. 6:11 But the earth had become ruined in the sight of the true God, and the earth was filled with violence. Rev. 11:18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth. Where in chapter 11 do you see the great crowd?

    And now John in chapter 7 is asked, who are they? It is very true, a jointed one, chosen by God did not know who they are.

    And yet you claim to know who they are, but you have no great crowd . Whereas Jehovah’s witnesses have millions ans millions with really no one knows the could. It changes daily.

    My next article Psalms 45

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      Psalms was not written for the Christian’s hope. Jesus opened a new and living way again where did jesus offer an earthly hope hope his followers. Bringing me to old testament scriptures like psalms and Isaiah isnr sufficient.

      Great crowd in heaven. Not hard buddy. Stop splitting hairs.

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