WE BELIEVE
- Both the Old and New Testament are Jehovah’s inspired words; the primary source of all Truth.
- Man did not evolve but was created
- Jehovah created his only-begotten Son, Jesus. Jesus created all other things.
- Jesus descended from heaven to earth and was born of Mary as a perfect human man, not as God in flesh.
- God raised Jesus from death in a Spirit body, not in a physical body of flesh.
- The Holy Spirit is Jehovah’s active power and force, not a person.
- The Trinity is no where found or taught in the Bible.
- Man is mortal and does not possess an immortal soul. The soul ceases to exist after death.
- There is no hell of fire where the wicked are punished. “Hell” is from the same Greek and Hebrew words for “grave,” describing the sleep of death, not eternal torment.
- We are now living in the ‘time of the end’
- Jesus returned and has been invisibly present on earth since the early days of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
- The 144,000 of Revelation 7 are the anointed Bride of Christ in heaven.
- Earth will never be literally destroyed or completely depopulated
- In the Kingdom, Christ will rule the earth in righteousness and peace
- By their faithfulness to God, the obedient of mankind will be granted what our original parents lost—everlasting life in human perfection on a paradise earth.
- Ultimately, the wicked will be eternally destroyed, but not first without a full opportunity to follow Christ.
Hi there. I am a 21-year old believer in Christ, struggling to find a new church to be a part of. I am a relatively new believer (converting to Christianity in 2016 after three years of being an atheist), and on top of that, my dad is an ex-JW, so obviously I hold many stances and biblical observations that have turned many churches off from me. My dad has helped me and pointed me to this website. I just want a family to comfortably, and effectively, study the bible with. I live in northern Raleigh, NC. Where may I locate this church around my area or who do I contact?
Hello Dylan,Good to hear from you.I Like your Father was a JW For many years before I found the Bible Students.If you send me a e/mail to rtazzyman@ dodo.com.au,I will put you in touch with our American Bretheren,We have our publishing house in East Rutherford,NJ,& if you contact me we can send your particulars to them,& they will be in touch with you.Richard.Tazzyman,Bible Student,Australia.
Dylan,
I know that there are Bible Students in Wilmington, but that is a far drive for you. I will see if I can find any in your area. Also, I will email you my phone # and if you would like to, you can feel welcome to call me to talk about anything you want. – Peter
Dear friend,
I hope you are doing well and in peace!
I am 60 years old men from Central Brazil, a semi-retired Philosophy professor, now more involved in helping prevent violence between the many different religious and political diverging groups of Brazil. We don´t have much more than our work to contribute to this dream and we are coming to you asking for donations of books and other printed material about your group´s beliefs, practice, culture, and history you may have available in English, Spanish, French, Italian, Romanian and Portuguese, of course.
Internet is expensive and of bad quality here and in many other parts of Brazil´s interior, so the richness we know is available through it is out of our reach, so the importance of print materials.
We are working in a house open to research, presentation, and meeting having to do with the study of human thought and spirituality, to stimulate openness and respect for the differences of human faith and thinking.
I and a small group of my students are personally devoted to finding the truth and studying your tradition with this aim!
Thank you so much for reading me up to here and, please, if you can help us sure do, you will be contributing to peace, knowledge, culture, and progress.
Beforehand, our appreciation for all you are and mean!
Peace,
Onaldo A Pereira
Caixa Postal 122
CEP 75901-070 – Rio Verde, Goiás, Braz
Hello Onaldo.Hhave past your request on to NEW JERSY USA.Our Publishing house is situated there.Just be patient,as at present the facility is closed for a couple of weeks due to our annual Conventions in the various districts.Most of our Bretheren are travelling at present to the locations to serve at these conventions.Be patient they will send the booklets/Magazines etc when they return.Regards,Richard.Tazzyman. Bible Student,Australia. PS We also have Bretheren in Brazil,If you would agree I would send them your details,But only with your permission
Return to the truth. Just from a minutes reading i know your spiritual source is from the bottomless pit.
Please give us a example,where do we deviate from the Scritures?We have to have a particular point that you are refering to.Thank you,Richard,Bible student,Australia.
Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.
Isaiah:50:11
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 Peter:2:1
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1 John:4:2
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1 John:4:3
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2 John:1:7
These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
2 Peter:2:17For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
2 Peter:2:18While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
2 Peter:2:19
The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Isaiah:40:3
Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob.
Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.
Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.
Isaiah:41:21-24
The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.
Isaiah:42:13
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2 Peter:3:7
… in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter:3:10
You don’t listen?
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
James:5:20
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
1 John:4:6
Hello Get,These scriptures are all from Gods Word,But they do not show any proof of your first statement that we do not belive in the word as Taught by Jesus,The first born of all creation.It is easy to make statements,but they must be followed by SCRIPTUAL BACKING.Richard,Bible Student,Australia.
WE BELIEVE
Both the Old and New Testament are Jehovah’s inspired words; the primary source of all Truth.
A different name? A Deity outside the Bible?
Man did not evolve but was created
Jehovah created his only-begotten Son, Jesus. Jesus created all other things.
You knowledgables, Tell me when and where Jesus was created? where did you get this knowledge? from kabbalah?
You have eyes but you don’t see, you have ears but you don’t hear.
Or you only hear what suit you.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John:1:1″
Jesus descended from heaven to earth and was born of Mary as a perfect human man, not as God in flesh.
“perfect human , not as God in flesh”
Are you sure? Did they worship perfect human man?
And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
Matthew:28:9
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah:9:6
God raised Jesus from death in a Spirit body, not in a physical body of flesh.
This again is not from the bible. If so can you tell us the whereabout of his flesh, because your argument starts with conjecture.
“Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.”
Luke:24:39
The Holy Spirit is Jehovah’s active power and force, not a person.
What? Active power and force? Again you can quote other sources but not the bible.
The Trinity is no where found or taught in the Bible.
Some one has already gave you the answer. But add this to your note:
The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. Job:33:4
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew:28:19
Man is mortal and does not possess an immortal soul. The soul ceases to exist after death.
but don’t rush here and there. Either you stick to the bible or write your own convenient one.
my bible says:
“And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”Genesis:2:7 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis:2:17
There is no hell of fire where the wicked are punished. “Hell” is from the same Greek and Hebrew words for “grave,” describing the sleep of death, not eternal torment.
But, There is judgement and fire that consumes the wicked…. and …….fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Revelation:20:9
We are now living in the ‘time of the end’
Simply yea! but you suffixed other junks. Saying:
Jesus returned and has been invisibly present on earth since the early days of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
what does “invisibly present” mean? Why do you want to connect it to WBTS? Where did you get the “start date”? I think it is… from the bottomless pit.
God does nothing in secret. Jesus was once here…and will come soon. Or are you preparing the people to the cosmic (Maitreya) christ? Dont be the confusing Confucius. Lo, christ is here, lo, he is there!
My bible says:
After the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. Mark:16:19
“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”
Revelation:1:7
The 144,000 of Revelation 7 are the anointed Bride of Christ in heaven.
“Are you sure? “Anointed bride” where did you get this wording? Did you mean “which were sealed”? Here again another error. who is the bride? As to the biblr…New Jerusalem. and you intentionally missed those multitudes “which no man could number?”
“And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
Revelation:21:2
“And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.”
Revelation:7:4
“After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne , and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;”
Revelation:7:9. Mind you also, It says before the throne and before the lamb… not on earth.
Earth will never be literally destroyed or completely depopulated
Are you sure? Are you fooling the multitude?
“Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.”
Zephaniah:3:8
“Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.”
Isaiah:51:6
“And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.”
Isaiah:34:4
“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea,. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”
Revelation:20:7-9.
In the Kingdom, Christ will rule the earth in righteousness and peace
In the kingdom? Be specific. what do you mean? and which earth?
“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
Isaiah:65:17
By their faithfulness to God, the obedient of mankind will be granted what our original parents lost—everlasting life in human perfection on a paradise earth.
“In human perfection? you mean evolving in to godhood? wow! What did you do with the grace of God. The Atonement through the blood of christ… who changed our filthy rug? ”
Paradise earth? you kidding me? Isaiah 34:4
Ultimately, the wicked will be eternally destroyed, but not first without a full opportunity to follow Christ.
Put a timeline..what is the meaning of “not first without… “? don’t confuse the readers! Probation will close.
To the sincere readers and to those knowingly staging falsehood: The bible says:
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Revelation:18:4. We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.Jeremiah:51:9
God still loves you and awaits you…before time is out… comeout of falsehood. Return to the truth.
Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalm:119:160
Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth.Psalm:119:151
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John:17:17
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John:14:6
If you fear God, obey Him only. Don’t affiliate to any secret society.… don’t wait until the egg hatches. Read the prescript God’s gift to man…. for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2 Corinthians:6:14
To follow God, you don’t need esoteric philosophy.
The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret. Daniel:2:47
Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos:3:7
Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. John:18:20
Hello Again,Get,I gave you Scriptures that tell you that the Father is greater than me(Jesus) The translation you are using is probably the King James Version which was written in the 16th Century,HAS BEEN FOUND TO CONTAIN 1000s errors,Spurious verses & so on.I also told you that GodHead is not in the Bible.John I:1 that you have Quoted is not right(Trinitarian)Also Translation of the Mighty god that you quoted agaain is not Right,Should be Mighty God,Jesus always prayed on earth to his father,”Father IF Possible Take this cup away from Me,” Father why have thy Forsaken me?”.When Jesus was baptised,the Holy Spirit(NOT GHOST)Read in greek what the actual word means,Ghost is not correct,came from the heavens & said,”This is my SON!Note Son & Father are two different things. Jesus(Real name is Joshua)Look it up,& It means “Jehovah is Salvation.Make sure that when you quote from Scriptures that you actually know what the meaning of the ROOT word/words mean,& not what some people translate them as.Regards,Richard,
You are not the first person to attack bible translators and the bible, it has begun before the reformation. History tell me what happened…that a lot of people (start from the Apostles) were accused, burned and persecuted. Fled to new land with their bibles..but new strategy was set I.e., Launching “learning against learning”. Nothing new.
Test: If your system u r in is of that generation and with your doctrine… I think u would have survived all excommunication, anathema and persecution.
“And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. Daniel:7:25”
So it happened. A lot of resourceful books are out there. Read them they are eye openers.
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Revelation:7:14
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.? Revelation:12:11
Mighty god that you quoted agaain is not Right,Should be Mighty God. ..
. R
Really? if I heared it from you and you are the Babylonian King I just quote it as it is. Because that shows king of Babylonia exposures to many gods not to God. It is not an err. You see Richard don’t rush to conclusion.
Anonymous,The quote in the King James Says,THE ALMIGHTY GOD,This is wrong,it should be Mighty God.That is a big difference!The Mighty GOD IS JEHOVAH!Jesus is & can be A Mighty God,big difference,That is why in Ephesians 1:20-22 it tells us that God lifted Christ above all things-put all thinga at his feet,Raised Christ from the grave,& seated him at HIS RIGHT HAND In the heavenly places!Also my Friend,nowhere in my Post(Blog)did I criticise GODS MOST MOST HOLY WORD,the Bible,”All scripture is Inspired of GOD!”But to say that many Translators of the bible from the 15th Century to Today have not been honest is not being critical of Gods word,but of those who have taken away or added to his word!For example,In the earliest manuscripts(OLDEST)you will find the tetragrammaton over 6,800 times-Gods most holy Name,but translators have removed it & Inserted LORD Instead,thus corrupting GODS MOST HOLY WORD!So I was not & never will deviate from the PURE WORD as God intended it,but will complain about those men(who to serve their own means)changed & corrupted the WORD.But alas,when the dead sea scrolls were found their error was exposed to the World.It would be nice to know your name-Anonymous is not very personal,Hard to connect with,But that is your right my friend.Richard,Bible Student Australia.PS,Check out the king James version in Psalms 83.18,one of four places where his name is used in the kjv.
Are you aware the the bible texts aka scriptures are unicil? No upper or lower cases. The teachings are a conclusion of the preponderance of the evidence pro or conq
I have noticed in the “what we believe” many of the statements are un-scriptural and anti Christian in doctrine.Just two example.
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You state that “God raised Jesus from death in a Spirit body, not in a physical body of flesh.”
But Jesus emphatically said he was NOT a spirit immediately after His resurrection to the disciples.
Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
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“The Trinity is no where found or taught in the Bible.” Actually it is everywhere in Scripture.
The term is “Godhead” – Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me [Jesus].
Christoff – I think it is pretty clear from scripture that Jesus is an invisible spirit being, no longer having a flesh and blood body. See here: https://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/2010/11/11/does-jesus-have-a-body-of-flesh-3/
After Jesus resurrection, he at times took on a body of flesh to communicate with the disciples. We see many examples of angels doing the same in the Bible.
What is your definition of the Trinity? One God composed of three persons?
Hello Christoff,The Scriture that you refered to in Col 2:9 about the GODHEAD is not right.Translators have used their own Trinitarian belefs to render this as “Godhead” which is quite incorrect.IT actually means “Divine”All Bible translators agree that this is a mistranlation,& should be,”Divine or his “Nature”.Jesus also stated that the father is “Greater than I”.A spirit Creature ,Like the reserected Christ ,could & did take on a body form after his reserection,Just as the Angels that appeared to many Prophets in the Old testament,sat down with them,ate meals with them,then discarded these earthly Bodies when finished with them.Jesus appeared to his disciples/followers on many occasions during the 40 days before he ascended into the heavens,& each time it was a different body!Flesh & blood cannot enter the heavens as we are told in Gods Word.GOD is a Spirit,& those worshiping him must worship him in spirit & Truth,Richard,Bible Student,Australia
Hi, I just came across the International Bible Student Association web site. If I understand correctly they are claiming not to be Jehovah’s Witnesses yet, they believe the same thing. Is this correct or am I confusing the two groups
Christopher
Hi I’ve just read the article on the cross or stake, the writer seemed to want it to be the cross in conclusion but there is doubt whatever is our preferred view. I heard a talk sometime ago and Gal 3:13 was mentioned in connection with quoting Deut 21:22,23 nwt where both verses say “accursed is every man hung upon a stake” Paul was saying Christ purchased us releasing us from the curse of the law”. The kjv uses the term ‘tree’ in both scriptures. The gn (good news version) says ‘tree’ in Gal and ‘pole’ in Deut. The gNt uses ‘tree’ in Galatians. (gNt = Johannes Greber New Testerment pub 1937). The apostle Paul being a Hebrew scholar trained by one of the highest Pharisees prior to becoming a Christian is saying that Christ was impaled in like manner. We know for sure the Hebrews in Deut did not use a cross. There is an interesting story behind the Greber version (German) of NT. Thank you all.
Gasa,
We know from history that the romans crucified on a cross. Jesus wouldn’t have survived long on a stake with his hands over his head. My personal theory is Rutherford adopted this view to get his group to take off their cross-and -crown pins thus furthering his group from Russell’s.
Hey GASA,
I didn’t leave you. For a while the admin had the comments turned off so I couldn’t see where we left off. 🙁
Hello Richard.Tazzyman,
I live upstate Ny Rochester NY.Also wanted to know if there will be a commemoration that I could attend with my family.
Hello Maria,Am making Enquiries for you.Will get back to you ASAP.Have made enquiries at our printing house in Rutherford New Jersy.In the Meantime I will supply My e/mai address & you can contact me in the meantime.I was a JW For over 40 years.Regards,Richard.Tazzyman.Australia
Hhello again Maria,I have not forgotton you.Its that quite a few of the Bretheren are at conventions,I have been told that I will be supplied with a contact for you in the next day or so.Thanks for your patience.Bbro Richard.Bible Student Australia.
Hello no worries.I was also checking up on conventions which my family enjoys every year.hopefully next year I can attend a bible student convention.thank you Richard.patiently will wait for your response.Thanks again.
Hello Maria,So,so sorry to not get back to you.I & my wife have both been in hospital with different problems,& my wife has just had a knee replacement.It appears that the Bible students(our bretheren a very thin in the area you reside in.I have a couple of suggestions for you.You can contact the PASTORAL BIBLE Inst,on http://www.Heraldmag.org ,or the Dawn bible students assoc,199 Railroad Ave East Rutherford,NJ 07073 E/mail http://www.dawnbible.com Both of these are printing houses for the bible students world wide,& also have Pilgrims that will be able to contact or visit your area.Also we have a memorial CD(mp3)& booklet that we can send to you if you e/mail me with contact detalis on,rtazzyman@dodo.com.au.The celebration of the Lords Passover is on April 18th (after sunset).Pls let us know if we can send you the CD,Christian regards,Richard,Bible Student Australia.
Hello Richard ted am writing because am interested in the in the passover cd.don’t know how to get in contact without posting sensitive information but yes i would love to recieve thecpassover CD sorry it is such short notice just found the reply in my email.Thank you so much.Hope for the best for your wife and you and fast recovery in jehovah’s name.
Sincerely,
Maria Santiago
How can i find a bible students church where I live? would like to change also has to have the beliefs mentioned above.
Maria,let us know where you live on this site & we will be able to steer you in the right Direction.Bible Student.Richard.Tazzyman
Hi, everyone!
I can’t say I agree with all the above list. I’m a skeptical believer. I don’t take everything people or an oganization say is the truth! So many things have been proposed as truth. Than someone comes along and proves it not truth. It is all a matter of belief. We look to something to believe in, and along comes something that makes sense to us, so we begin to believe that!
I grew up as Trinitarian and was quite happy in that religion as I was growing up. And than driffed away to a worldly way of life. Years later I went back and enjoyed that fellowship. Than I came across a different religion that made me question the faith I had. That began a path of belief and disbelief. Due to so many ambiguousness and contradictions texts in the scriptures.
While I respect everyones faith, Today,I no longer believe any “one” organization has the monolopy on what is classed as Bibical truth. I lisen to what other say, and consider the value of what they say, and if it is reasonable and in harmony with truth than I accept that.
Maybe I have the wrong approach but I have to be satisfied in myself that what I believe is the truth, and that it is not just based on assumption or conjecture. Most religions are, giving birth to the many thousands of different religious organizations all from one Book.
Christian Love to all!
I agree. The Bible Students are not an organization, but a fellowship of like minded Brothers and Sisters. Our study of the Bible causes us to have certain shared beliefs, but we are not so dogmatic to condemn others who may disagree with us. We must prove everything from Gods word, not the word of any man or organization. We are told in scripture that each of us must prove for himself what the will of God is. We all stand or fall on that belief. It is not until Satan is abyssed and this earth is finally under the rule of Christ that the earth will finally be filled with the true knowledge of God. Until then each of us must do what we can each day to follow in the footsteps of Christ. God is the judge, not man. Any religion that claims to have the whole truth and complete understanding of Gods will and punishes those who don’t go along with their teachings is wrong. That has been my problem with the JW’s. When a person can be cut off from friends and family simply for disagreeing with doctrine, that organization has become like the Pharisee’s that Christ condemned!
Ted I agree, because they have to shunn relatives because they left, yet they can be with relatives that are into everything, some very bad. And the witness doesn’t see how this isn’t logical to associate with say a pedophile or rapist relative or in the congregation but not a God fearing relative that left off worshipping and following men.